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Old 10-09-2011, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Dead people voting - Ballotpedia
Some recent examples of elections in which actual fraudulent votes were cast on behalf of dead people include a 2005 state senate election in Tennessee that was decided by fewer than 20 votes; in this case, a post-election verification process established that two fraudulent votes were cast on behalf of dead people. Three election workers were indicted, and the results of the election were voided. The mayoral election in Miami in 1997 was nullified by a judge because of widespread fraud, including a number of established cases of fraudulent votes cast in the name of dead people. Election inspectors looking at the 1982 gubernatorial election in Illinois estimated that as many as 1 in 10 ballots cast during the election were fraudulent, including votes by the dead.[1]
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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This is from the article that paragraph cites:

"Typically, records of votes by the dead are the result of bookkeeping errors and do not result in the casting of extra ballots. The Journal did not find any fraud in the local matches it investigated."

I might consider changing my mind about this if I see a number from a single election or study that makes it out of single digits (a larger number "including" impersonation cases doesn't count though).

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Old 10-09-2011, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Out West
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Five myths about voter fraud - The Washington Post

The article uses statistics gathered at the state and local level to paint an accurate picture of voter fraud in this country. And this voter thinks there are FAR more serious problems to worry about and deal with than instances of true voter fraud.

Here are the first two myths, and a sample of the accompanying text:

...2. Requiring identification at the polls affects all voters equally.

State photo ID restrictions disproportionately affect African Americans, Latinos, young voters, people over 65 and people with disabilities. Advancement Project studies show that 11 percent of eligible voters, or about 21 million people, don’t have updated, state-issued photo IDs: 25 percent of African Americans, 15 percent of those earning less than $35,000, 18 percent of citizens age 65 or older and 20 percent of voters age 18 to 29. ...

Gee ... African-Americans, the young, and the poor ... and what percentage of these groups would be voting Republican??

There's a lot of effort in various states to make it more difficult and expensive for certain groups to vote. To me, the efforts are nothing short of state-mandated voter suppression.
How is that unfair? Go get your fricken ID card, no one is stopping anyone from getting one. It only costs around $20. Every state I've lived in it is required by law to have a photo ID or a license with your current address. So, again, how is this "unfair"?
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How is that unfair? Go get your fricken ID card, no one is stopping anyone from getting one. It only costs around $20. Every state I've lived in it is required by law to have a photo ID or a license with your current address. So, again, how is this "unfair"?
No state that I know of requires anyone to have any sort of ID card. Perhaps you could post some links to states that do so.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=16602
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No state that I know of requires anyone to have any sort of ID card. Perhaps you could post some links to states that do so.
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If you're referring to my post (above) I meant no state requires you to have an ID for general purposes, e.g. to walk down the street. I have voted in Colorado for 30 years, and I've never been asked to show ID, so I question that map. I just have to sign the log. Many of our elections have gone to mail-in, as well. Just requires a signature, which can be checked, if necessary.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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If voting is so important, you'd think an ID should be required to vote... I mean is voting LESS important than driving or even have work identification? Oh my... liberals would have you think so... voting isn't like walking down the street... heck, we even have school ids just to go to school.... its the end of the world!!
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If voting is so important, you'd think an ID should be required to vote... I mean is voting LESS important than driving or even have work identification? Oh my... liberals would have you think so... voting isn't like walking down the street...
Your signature is your ID.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:33 PM
 
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Your signature is your ID.
I see... I can identify a total stranger based on their signature... you're a liberal genius...
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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It says non-photo ID for Colorado.
Maybe they are not following the protcols.
Vote in a small town? Maybe the poll workers know you.
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