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Old 10-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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I am also not sure what the point here is. They are trying to turn the lower crime rates into an argument against Obama, but they do not seem to be sure how to go about it. I am sure we will see more organized line of thinking after the next Glenn Beck show (if Beck talks about this).
I'm sure you're right. This is what happens when they don't rely on one of their professional bots to do their thinking for them.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You oppose Obama relaxing gun laws?

So, basically you are saying if you were a news source, you would do all you can to support Obama. You are not making much sense to me.

Drop in crime rates has been mentioned in the media, but you seem to be saying it has not been mentioned ENOUGH, so I am asking you how often it should be repeated.

PS The Florida law you mention became law in 2011 AFTER the major drop in crime rates in 2010. I like that law BTW

This thread is pretty funny if you think about it. When Obama was elected, the right wing said he would ban guns, but when he did the opposite, they are now trying to prove that......wait a minute....what are you trying to prove?
Is the ATF part of our administration? If so this article, from good old C-D, may show that some new gun controls have been put out to certain people.

Medical-pot users fuming over ATF's gun-sale ban - Washington Times

Yep, the ATF can carry out something like Fast and Furious so Mexican drug lords can buy more fire power but they can also stop many people from buying guns, citizens that is.

Oh hell, I just realized that this link is to a source most progs don't accept.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm sure you're right. This is what happens when they don't rely on one of their professional bots to do their thinking for them.
It happens a lot on Sundays when Beck is off air.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Is the ATF part of our administration? If so this article, from good old C-D, may show that some new gun controls have been put out to certain people.

Medical-pot users fuming over ATF's gun-sale ban - Washington Times

Yep, the ATF can carry out something like Fast and Furious so Mexican drug lords can buy more fire power but they can also stop many people from buying guns, citizens that is.

Oh hell, I just realized that this link is to a source most progs don't accept.
You want to arm criminals and drug-addicts? Ahh, the freedom.....
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As usual, I'm convinced you think you are making a point, but I'm unsure what you think the point is. Just use google, roy. You'll find the studies I'm talking about that link abortion with lower crime rates. (I'm not saying lower crime rates are a reason to support abortion, by the way; I"m just pointing out some facts.)
I googled crime rates, abortion and found that 3 of the first 5 articles they showed were questioning the facts as Levitt saw them. This link is to an article that John Stossel wrote about the subject. Remember that since it was written in 2006 it was carried by ABC not Fox. He wasn't working for Fox back then.

Does Abortion Lower Crime Rates? - ABC News
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Studies that link abortion with lower crime rates. Now that is a laugh. I suppose next they will have a study about chewing gum lowers rape cases.
I put in a link about crime rates and abortion just ahead of this post and you may find that abortion and crime rates were hooked up by a man named Levitt and a partner and it has all come from them. I think that the study would be their conclusion that all those unwanted children would have been criminals so abortion stopped them from being around.

Does Abortion Lower Crime Rates? - ABC News
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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I'm surprised the OP is starting this thread now as 20 people were shot in Chicago this weekend.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Is the ATF part of our administration? If so this article, from good old C-D, may show that some new gun controls have been put out to certain people.

Medical-pot users fuming over ATF's gun-sale ban - Washington Times

Yep, the ATF can carry out something like Fast and Furious so Mexican drug lords can buy more fire power but they can also stop many people from buying guns, citizens that is.

Oh hell, I just realized that this link is to a source most progs don't accept.
That C-D thread has been exposed for what it actually is, fear mongering. Nothing has changed concerning guns and marajuana users. Marajuana users have always been banned from purchasing guns from dealers. It's on Form 4473 and has been on form 4473 since it's inception. Purchasing a gun if you are a user of MJ is illegal by federal law, it's always been that way, Roy. Nothing has changed.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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He would look better if crime rates went up, as opposed to down? ?

Government abetted killing of citizens seems to me to be anything but lower crime rates. I still wonder how soon Holder has to be thrown under the bus to save The Won's butt.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Government abetted killing of citizens seems to me to be anything but lower crime rates.
Yet, somehow there has been a huge drop in crime rates.

You can't argue facts Roy. The rates have dropped, you just hate to see it happen while Obama is the president.

Good news to you is like sunlight to the vampire.
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