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Old 10-13-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I have to say that as a New Yorker who works for the local transit agency, I find this thread fascinating. Andrea, you should come here and see what goes on, on our subways and buses on a 24/7 basis. (We're apparently capable of putting up with a crying baby--even a baby crying exceptionally loudly for a long period of time--without thinking that the first course of action should be a lawsuit). A crying baby on a bus in Portland is nothing.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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My position is, you plan the best way you can. IF you don't think you can prevent your children from having a tantrum on the airplane, you shouldn't be on the airplane. If an accident happens, it happens, people understand. If someone get's sick, people understand.

But, you are responsible to do your best to AVOID having to inflict this upon others. SO, if you need to ride public transportation, AND there is the possibility of your child having a meltdown, you should be prepared to leave the public transportation. While people are understanding, they also don't have to suffer on your behalf.
True. If they can't tolerate the fact that sometimes life happens when you're in a public space, they can take a car or a cab.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Mothers should pack parachutes when they fly, just in case the baby starts to cry?
How about don't fly with the baby?

Or doesn't that make any sense?
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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True. If they can't tolerate the fact that sometimes life happens when you're in a public space, they can take a car or a cab.
Sorry, it's not up to them to accommodate you, you are the one who has brought the child. If things get out of control it's up to you to make things right. If you want to pay for my cab or get cabs for everyone else, or get everyone else a ride, I will be fine with that.

There was a day and age that people understood it was inconsiderate to inflict this on them.

It's called responsibility, sorry to find out you don't believe in it.

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Sorry, it's not up to them to accommodate you, you are the one who has brought the child. If things get out of control it's up to you to make things right. If you want to pay for my cab, or get me a ride, I will be fine with that.

It's called responsibility, sorry to find out you don't believe in it.
Yes it is up to them to accommodate you if you're in a public space or facility that's open to all. You don't get to have an annoyance-free existence in these spaces.

Babies cry. It's what they do. It's called life. Sorry you don't believe in it. Either get over it or stay away from public spaces.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Yes it is up to them to accommodate you if you're in a public space or facility that's open to all. You don't get to have an annoyance-free existence in these spaces.

Babies cry. It's what they do. It's called life. Sorry you don't believe in it. Either get over it or stay away from public spaces.
Yes babies cry, if you can't respect OTHER people by taking care of your child or moving away to a more private area then I feel sorry for you. You don't understand respect of others, and you are unable to take responsibility. I did exactly what I am suggesting, while raising MY children, why shouldn't i expect others to have the same respect?
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yes babies cry, if you can't respect OTHER people by taking care of your child or moving away to a more private area then I feel sorry for you. You don't understand respect of others, and you are unable to take responsibility. I did exactly what I am suggesting, while raising MY children, why shouldn't i expect others to have the same respect?
I understand respect of others just fine. I also understand that babies cry and sometimes there's nothing you can do about it. Furthermore, I also understand that public spaces provided by the public for the overall good of the public are places where babies get to cry without any obligation of the parents to promptly whisk them away just to accommodate your delicate sensibilities.

A bus isn't a church or a restaurant or a movie theater or some place where people go as a social activity or for the enjoyment of going there. It's a vital public service that needs to be as accommodating as possible to serve its purpose. If that means you have to listen to a baby cry for a while, that's how it is. If you can't tolerate it, drive yourself or take a cab. Either that or petition your local municipality to include "crying rooms" on the buses.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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How about don't fly with the baby?

Or doesn't that make any sense?
Your mother died, you need to be there at her funeral, she lives 2000 miles away. She's named you as executor of her estate, so this is something you have to do.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Settle down, please. Not every mother has her own car. My wife takes care of my son during the day while I work. She is without a car. She needs to use public transportation. If for some reason something happend during the day then she would need a bus. Only a complete imbecile would think that you can control a 4 month year old to just stop crying. It is the adult and resonable thing to do to not let a mother with a cryign baby get to you.

My son is calm, but has let go crying once or twice in the grocery store. Yes, we can't just leave him in the car when we go shopping, like some would want. It is embarrassing for me, as I hate having attention drawn to me. But people like yourself just make it worse, knowing that there are people with no understanding or compassion to others out there.

If you really expect that a mother with a little baby who needs to use public transportation trying to get to a doctors, shopping, etc can't do so because their baby may cry is disrepectful to you then you are a complete selfish asshat. Period.

I bet any money you wailed in public also at 6 months. Somebody should of just kept you inside, locked away.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Your mother died, you need to be there at her funeral, she lives 2000 miles away. She's named you as executor of her estate, so this is something you have to do.
So you get a babysitter and go.

Thank you for playing.

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