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Old 10-10-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Per September unemployment report avg weeks collecting was 40.5

26 are constant, paid by states, in good and bad times. That means extensions (Tiers 2 through 5) allow for 73 extra weeks. That means on average, just 14.5 of 73 weeks extra are used. So conservatives, if unemployed are lazy and just want to spend 2 years on your dime, why would they leave 80% of the extra weeks presently allowed uncollected?
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Reality
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The conservative mantra is that the perpetually unemployed are lazy and sit on their couch, I have no doubt that a lot of unemployed people are actively looking for a job and many will find them but a lot aren't, those are the people we conservatives are talking about.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Per September unemployment report avg weeks collecting was 40.5

26 are constant, paid by states, in good and bad times. That means extensions (Tiers 2 through 5) allow for 73 extra weeks. That means on average, just 14.5 of 73 weeks extra are used. So conservatives, if unemployed are lazy and just want to spend 2 years on your dime, why would they leave 80% of the extra weeks presently allowed uncollected?
So was the left wrong that the extension was required to avoid a disaster?
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I think 99 might have been over the top, but again, only 14.5 extra weeks are being used on average, when the total average weeks collecting is 40.5. That means the conserv mantra of laziness has no concrete data behind it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The conservative mantra is that the perpetually unemployed are lazy and sit on their couch, I have no doubt that a lot of unemployed people are actively looking for a job and many will find them but a lot aren't, those are the people we conservatives are talking about.
You wouldn't know it by the talking points conservatives say and repeat.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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You wouldn't know it by the talking points conservatives say and repeat.
Maybe you might not know it, I'm a well educated guy with common sense and I know it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Per September unemployment report avg weeks collecting was 40.5

26 are constant, paid by states, in good and bad times. That means extensions (Tiers 2 through 5) allow for 73 extra weeks. That means on average, just 14.5 of 73 weeks extra are used. So conservatives, if unemployed are lazy and just want to spend 2 years on your dime, why would they leave 80% of the extra weeks presently allowed uncollected?
Those that want to work and can't get a great job now are either working several jobs (as many do in Las Vegas) or they take a lower job at Carl's Junior, Starbucks and so on.
Unless you have zero job or social skills there are no reasons to not be able to find something.
Lastly, did those who can't find work in one area more to another. People in Detroit are still waiting for the auto industry to find them again and that is stupid.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Some are, some haven't the money to move, and the auto industry is adding back jobs, in both Michigan and RTW states.

What is stupid is to pretend 40.5 does not exist, and that all are sitting on the dole 99 weeks. If radical right were correct in that assumption, average tenure on ui would be at minimum, 90 weeks. Somewhere north of 90% of the 99 weeks. Instead its at 41% of the 99 week max.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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You have the government unions and massive use of social programs choking both the states and federal government. You need reductions of both and you need people willing to work elsewhere or at lesser jobs. People have done that decades ago, I really don't get why people today have all these excuses and self-restrictions when it worked for the great depression on.
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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Off topic, RCCCB. This is about the average weeks collected vs the max allowed.
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