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Old 10-12-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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That may be true but what happens when the economy picks up? Or I guess it won't be able to because there is no power. Lights been turned out by the EPA. Off somewhere with lights!!


The answer is they won't comeback. The combination of factors like the location of resources that made places like the Iron Triangle in Western PA, NE Ohio and the WVA Panhandle a world beating center to make iron and steel are largely irrelevant if the customers are in China, India or Brazil. Add to that a lack of major markets for steel in the USA going forward. Its not as if we are using a lot of rebar steel to build roads or bridges or high speed rail. This isn't China or India you know. For example the iconic 1 WTC rising in NYC is being built with steel that is nade in Belgium that is shipped by Mittal-Arecelor a steel company to Balitimore for finishing before being trucked up to NYC. Contrast this to the late 1960s when most of the steel that went into WTC 1 and 2 was made in Bethlehem or Johnstown PA and made a short trip to NYC. This is the way things are now buster and America needs to snap out of its fantasies .
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Barak Obama cannot be kicked out of office soon enough.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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The answer is they won't comeback. The combination of factors like the location of resources that made places like the Iron Triangle in Western PA, NE Ohio and the WVA Panhandle a world beating center to make iron and steel are largely irrelevant if the customers are in China, India or Brazil. Add to that a lack of major markets for steel in the USA going forward. Its not as if we are using a lot of rebar steel to build roads or bridges or high speed rail. This isn't China or India you know. For example the iconic 1 WTC rising in NYC is being built with steel that is nade in Belgium that is shipped by Mittal-Arecelor a steel company to Balitimore for finishing before being trucked up to NYC. Contrast this to the late 1960s when most of the steel that went into WTC 1 and 2 was made in Bethlehem or Johnstown PA and made a short trip to NYC. This is the way things are now buster and America needs to snap out of its fantasies .
Hey buster what does steel have to do with power plants?
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Hey buster what does steel have to do with power plants?


How ignorant do you have to be to not undersatnd that their is a match between the electrical load and generating capacity. When the Bethlehem Steel Works shut down that dramatically dropped the electrical load to be serviced by PPL ( Penn. Power and Light) in the Lehigh Valley. Those mills at one time employeed 20,000 hard working men. PPL would be an irresponsible unility operators unless they didn't rertire some unnecessary power generators. In fact PPL is going one step better getting rid of all their power plants and becoming just a transmission company. They will no longer have the headaches of power generation but since the PPL lines are the only way to get power in a sizeable chunk of PA they will always get their transission charge regardeless of who is creditied with the power source. Also PPL does not have to find markets for power that are no longer there, so you get a better balance sheet in a fading industrial state. Profits are what cound, idiot.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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Hey idiot if they aren't using the power to begin with then why will there be brownouts?
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