Recall Walker Campaign Officially Starts

[jojajn]

Walker is obviously concerned because he is trying to do a "Stalin" maneuver to prevent a recall.

Specifically, Walker and his legislative allies have moved in recent days to have the state’s Joint Committee for Review of Administrative Rules cede authority over the state Government Accountability Board — which oversees Wisconsin elections — to the governor.
Walker’s scheme is a dictator’s dream. With the prospect that the scandal-plagued governor could face a recall threat in short order, what could be better for Walker than gaining control of the rule-making process regarding recalls?

Read more: John Nichols: Walker seeks to set rules for recalls

[Ferd]

To start with the idea that Walker's adminstration is "scandal-plagued" is a lie.


why would I believe anything else stated in the link?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Who are you kidding

No one. The proof is in the millions of dollars saved by WI school districts, the teachers NOT laid off this school year, and the property taxes NOT skyrocketing like they used to. ALL thanks to Governor Walker.

Wisconsin Schools To Lay Off 354 Teachers

354 is LESS than MPS laid off last year before Walker's bill saved teachers' jobs:

Given the choice between fewer benefits and layoffs, the Milwaukee teachers’ union chose the latter. In 2010, 482 teachers, including Megan Sampson, a young educator named an “outstanding first year teacher” by the Wisconsin Council of Teachers of English, got the axe.

Walker

Originally Posted by jojajn

As far as property taxes, local counties and municipalities will assess the property at a higher value to make up for lost state funding.

The school districts won't have to. They are BY FAR the largest tax levied on the property tax bills.

You don't have a leg to stand on. Things have proven to be MUCH better with Walker's bill. Everyone is seeing for themselves what Walker already knew. This is a MUCH better way to manage state and local finances.

[sterpetron]

This is a good example of how if the majority of centrists like me reach their breaking point from the f--king garbage I am seeing from public union defenders, this country is going to do one of two things:

1-split apart with the liberals/public union employees/illegal aliens and their defenders/welfare and medicaid recipients in one country, and the successful producers like me in the other.

2-the centrists will say "enough is enough"! and force the federal government to outlaw public unions entirely.

If the scumbag filth that is the left in this country does not stop pushing BS like this recall vote, and tries to force people like me to continue to pay outsized benefits, salaries and pensions for public union employees - watch out.

People like me can shut their business down outright, firing all of my employees, and that will end almost every penny the city and state is receiving in income tax revenue. I will then sell my real estate domicile and move out of the country entirely, with all of my assets in triple-tax free munis which will 100% deprive the governments of every penny of taxes.

Good f--king luck trying to pay for those bought-and-paid for public union employee votes with ZERO tax base. Multiply me x a few million entrepreneurs and city/state governments are DONE. TOAST. OVER.

The far left animals need to REALLY be quiet and stop this crap, because they are angering the vast centrist middle which has reached a tipping point.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by sterpetron

This is a good example of how if the majority of centrists like me reach their breaking point from the f--king garbage I am seeing from public union defenders, this country is going to do one of two things:

1-split apart with the liberals/public union employees/illegal aliens and their defenders/welfare and medicaid recipients in one country, and the successful producers like me in the other.

2-the centrists will say "enough is enough"! and force the federal government to outlaw public unions entirely.

If the scumbag filth that is the left in this country does not stop pushing BS like this recall vote, and tries to force people like me to continue to pay outsized benefits, salaries and pensions for public union employees - watch out.

People like me can shut their business down outright, firing all of my employees, and that will end almost every penny the city and state is receiving in income tax revenue. I will then sell my real estate domicile and move out of the country entirely, with all of my assets in triple-tax free munis which will 100% deprive the governments of every penny of taxes.

Good f--king luck trying to pay for those bought-and-paid for public union employee votes with ZERO tax base. Multiply me x a few million entrepreneurs and city/state governments are DONE. TOAST. OVER.

The far left animals need to REALLY be quiet and stop this crap, because they are angering the vast centrist middle which has reached a tipping point.

Exactly.

Though, higher income earners had been fleeing WI for years under the previous Democrat Governor for EXACTLY that reason...TAXED OUT!!!

A Nobel Prize-winning economist calls migration decisions "voting with your feet."
...Wisconsin had one of the five worst migration patterns in the United States from 2000 to 2006. Higher income individuals left Wisconsin. Individuals on the lowest rung of the economic ladder migrated to Wisconsin.

NEW REPORT SUGGESTS WISCONSIN IS STILL A WELFARE MAGNET STATE RANKS NEAR TOP IN WELFARE BENEFITS

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Yeah but.....that wasn't the GOAL was it? The GOAL for all the effort, bodies and money from the Left/unions (and boy oh boy, did they spend a wad of cash ) was to claim the Senate majority in order to stop the Walker agenda. They FAILED.

The fighters for liberty rounded up enough votes to get 6 out of 8 GOP senators up for recall, the biggest recall effort in US history. The GOP could barely gather 3 and got so desperate they had to bribe people with drinks at bars to get votes. Even after the Koch's (you want to talk about massive spending! ) dumped unheard of amounts of cash on TV ads, propaganda fliers, and of course pulling their dirty tricks running bogus candidates in the primary and sending out fake absentee ballots (GOP staples of trying to throw elections and crapping on the electoral process) they lost every single vote that came up. Quite a crushing defeat by not only losing every vote, to lose two of their own seats HUGE WIN.[/quote]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Just like the GOAL of the court race was to tilt the court to the Left, to stop the Walker agenda. They FAILED.

You mean the Prosser vs Kloppenburg supreme court election? It would be better if you addressed it as so rather then "the court race" It makes it come across as you don't know what you are talking about,...
Otherwise the dems were able to take a well known GOP incumbent with an over 30% lead in the primaries to winning. Only after some mystery (planted) votes magically appeared for Prosser (from a county clerk whom used to work for Prosser and has been previously investigated for voter fraud) Did that just barely send him over the top. To take an unheard of candidate from down over 30% to that close of a race is unheard of gains. HUGE WIN

Originally Posted by sanrene

When will you recognize the absolutely THOROUGH and COMPLETE loss the Left/unions suffered in WI?

If the GOP thinks losing is winning, they take the gold!

Originally Posted by sanrene

As I recall, you've claimed after every single defeat your side has suffered, the NEXT battle will bring victory to that "great sleeping beast that has been awakened".

From 100,000 strong protesting in madison and across the country for over a month, to the colossal OWS protests nationwide now. I don't know how much more proof you need the middle class is fired up against the right wing fascism
The GOP and tea party on the other hand's events have been laughable. It seems they have just resorted to sitting on their lazy rears cry-babying on their propaganda outlets and trolling internet forums instead of getting out and protesting,..but then again they don't have a clue on how to do such things without being bussed in or getting their marching orders from the Koch's, Beck, or Palin,..

Originally Posted by sanrene

You're batting about 0-5. You've been wrong every single time.

0-5? I think you're up to about 0-20 and counting with every post.

[shorebaby]

Lol, every nickel the lefty bobs spend on this lost cause is a nickel not spent on Congressional and Presidential elections. Keep up the stupid work!

[sanrene]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

The fighters for liberty rounded up enough votes to get 6 out of 8 GOP senators up for recall, the biggest recall effort in US history. The GOP could barely gather 3 and got so desperate they had to bribe people with drinks at bars to get votes. Even after the Koch's (you want to talk about massive spending! ) dumped unheard of amounts of cash on TV ads, propaganda fliers, and of course pulling their dirty tricks running bogus candidates in the primary and sending out fake absentee ballots (GOP staples of trying to throw elections and crapping on the electoral process) they lost every single vote that came up. Quite a crushing defeat by not only losing every vote, to lose two of their own seats HUGE WIN.

This is really amazing. The GOAL, you must remember the GOAL, was to retake the Senate. Now, I don't know about you, but if you have a goal and don't acquire that goal....that's a loss. Can the Left or what's left of the unions () in WI stop Walker or the GOP? No.

The recall elections were a HUGE defeat for the Left/unions.

I mean, are you really serious here?

You mean the Prosser vs Kloppenburg supreme court election? It would be better if you addressed it as so rather then "the court race" It makes it come across as you don't know what you are talking about,...
Otherwise the dems were able to take a well known GOP incumbent with an over 30% lead in the primaries to winning. Only after some mystery (planted) votes magically appeared for Prosser (from a county clerk whom used to work for Prosser and has been previously investigated for voter fraud) Did that just barely send him over the top. To take an unheard of candidate from down over 30% to that close of a race is unheard of gains. HUGE WIN

Barely over the top? I'd say 7000 votes is more than barely. Again, just because the Left ginned up the vote, got every leftist out from under every rock to get out and vote in what they called a referendum on Walker......and then LOST...because conservative voters came out in droves to thwart the left's plan......and somehow you call that a win?

Well, that "Win" sure came in handy for the Left when the stay on Walker's bill was lifted and overturned, didn't it?

Really, are you serious here?

Coming close doesn't count in elections.

The court is STILL a conservative one.

If the GOP thinks losing is winning, they take the gold!

Oh, they've WON at every turn up there in WI. Just ask yourself, if you dare, if the Left achieved ANY of their goals. Did they get the Senate back? NO. Did they take over the court? No. Did they stop the Walker agenda? No.

I just can't believe you still deny the reality of the situation up there.

The unions have been BUSTED. They are no longer collecting dues for the democrats. Teachers are refusing to pay those dues now. They have no power and most will be decertified.

I wonder if that was a goal as well.

From 100,000 strong protesting in madison and across the country for over a month, to the colossal OWS protests nationwide now. I don't know how much more proof you need the middle class is fired up against the right wing fascism

You mean all those union thugs bused in from other states? Those union thugs that so angered the residents, threatened business and individuals...that the voters came out in droves to defeat them?

Colossal OWS protests?



Are you counting the 53 that showed up in DC, or the 100 Dallas?

The middle class is not fired up. These are the same kinds of nuts we saw in WI, supported by the dems, unions and every commie/dem/socialist group out there.

Again, you are forgetting, the Left, especially the far Left, is a FRINGE element of this society and their views and thought are on the fringe as well.

The GOP and tea party on the other hand's events have been laughable. It seems they have just resorted to sitting on their lazy rears cry-babying on their propaganda outlets and trolling internet forums instead of getting out and protesting,..but then again they don't have a clue on how to do such things without being bussed in or getting their marching orders from the Koch's, Beck, or Palin,..

Um.....you mean events like the last election? You must remember that, right? The one where the GOP took back the House in HISTORIC fashion? Where legislatures/Governorships fell to the GOP across the nation? Where they won a record number of seats across this nation?

Or maybe you mean the election they won in NY, weiner's old seat, shumer's old seat, ferraro's old seat, 3-1 dem registration? Or maybe the bell weather in Nevada?

Which means they are now implementing critical redistricting, union busting and other goodies that should reap rewards in 2012.

0-5? I think you're up to about 0-20 and counting with every post.

Just amazing that the total and complete defeat of the unions/Left in WI is deemed by you as a win.....cuz ya came close.