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Old 10-12-2011, 07:59 AM
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It would be an opportunity for anyone who wanted to build American Made guillotines
Gillette is test-marketing one. They don't cost that much, but they really gouge you on the replacement blades. If it catches on they're going to have a Warren Buffet signature model for millionaires and billionaires...

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Old 10-12-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: around racist white people
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People tend to overestimate the chances of organized violence happening due to high unemployment. South Africa has an unemployment rate close to 25% and no revolution or significant protests demanding a regime change has materialized. A lot of former Yugoslav states also have rates exceeding 25% yet there has been no significant protests.

There are no major economies with an unemployment rate close to 50% so that is a highly unlikely scenario regardless of how bad the economy gets. In fact, even Afghanistan has an unemployment rate lower than 50%.

Of course, this doesn't mean that no serious social problems will develop. Organized crime and gang warfare would become extremely common while crime as a whole would soar. The poverty rate would also be incredibly high and tax revenues as a whole would keep falling. Average income for even the employed and the wealthy would also fall rapidly.
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Imo, we American will riot if things get really bad enough, smart people know the issue is outsourcing, dumb people think the problem is other people.

Once nfl get canceled along with other recreational activities people are used to people will riot.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I doubt if there is any way to recreate a prosperous economy without a severe collapse created by the unsupportable debt. The system will if everybody pays off their debt or if everyone defaults. Most likely will be the latter as total world production can no longer pay total world interest let alone principal.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I though all the "occupy _____" was rioting.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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the reason I bring this up is I have been doing alot of reading, and from what I am seeing, there is effort out there (in various stages of success) to replace all jobs dony currently by a human with a job by a robot/AI.

Here are some that are coming soon
Doctors
Robotic surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Watson (computer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drivers (all sorts)

Google's Ass-kicking Self-Driving Car - YouTube

Pilots
US Navy's 'UFO-Like' Stealth Drone Takes Flight | Fox News

Lawyers
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/05/sc...ml?ref=science

Stock Traders
How Speed Traders Are Changing Wall Street - CBS News


Some of these are a ways off, but others are closer than we think. Think of all of those millions of extra people jobless.

And on another not, according to the BLS, we are supposed to add about 15 million jobs between 2008-2018

Overview of the 2008-18 Projections

assuming the jobs lost are not coming back (which i think at this point is a safe assumption) that means that all the jobs that would be created during that time period (08-18) would only replace the ones lost during the recession.

We will add millions of new people during that time, and where will they work?

I know a number of people have a fit when you say it, but with permanent high unemployment, what are the options? Socialism or civil war?

Both?

Why would a company ever need a person to do a job again if a computer or robot can do it faster/cheaper/better?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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I though all the "occupy _____" was rioting.
you will know when the rioting starts when the people start shooting/burning/looting.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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One effect of high unemployment would be increased chance of war. I don't who originated it, but it often has been noted that liberal democracies don't attack each other. For one thing, we're too busy enjoying the fruits of capitalism. It seems a pretty safe bet that Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and the US will get thru the 2040's without going to war on each other, financial panics notwithstanding. That will be a century of peace among liberal democracies, in spite of mid east conflicts.

But if we were to have long term 25 pct unemployment I think all bets would be off.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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Wage rates would adjust downward and unemployment would decrease. Didn't you listen in grade school?
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:03 PM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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Legions of sweatshops around the world housing the vast majority of the 10+ Billion people on the planet on electric generator bikes generating electricity for the few elite who can use it to power their AI machines and electric cars.

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the reason I bring this up is I have been doing alot of reading, and from what I am seeing, there is effort out there (in various stages of success) to replace all jobs dony currently by a human with a job by a robot/AI.

Here are some that are coming soon
Doctors
Robotic surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Watson (computer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drivers (all sorts)

Google's Ass-kicking Self-Driving Car - YouTube

Pilots
US Navy's 'UFO-Like' Stealth Drone Takes Flight | Fox News

Lawyers
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/05/sc...ml?ref=science

Stock Traders
How Speed Traders Are Changing Wall Street - CBS News


Some of these are a ways off, but others are closer than we think. Think of all of those millions of extra people jobless.

And on another not, according to the BLS, we are supposed to add about 15 million jobs between 2008-2018

Overview of the 2008-18 Projections

assuming the jobs lost are not coming back (which i think at this point is a safe assumption) that means that all the jobs that would be created during that time period (08-18) would only replace the ones lost during the recession.

We will add millions of new people during that time, and where will they work?

I know a number of people have a fit when you say it, but with permanent high unemployment, what are the options? Socialism or civil war?

Both?

Why would a company ever need a person to do a job again if a computer or robot can do it faster/cheaper/better?
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Legions of sweatshops around the world housing the vast majority of the 10+ Billion people on the planet on electric generator bikes generating electricity for the few elite who can use it to power their AI machines and electric cars.
would you really want those people to be in that great of shape? they might rebel!
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