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Old 10-11-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Here - New South Battles Old Poverty as Right-to-Work Promises Fade - Bloomberg

The numbers show that even as South Carolina trumpeted coups like BMW, the state’s stance toward organized labor has depressed living standards, said Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies in Durham, North Carolina.
“There’s been this kind of undertow of low-wage jobs all along,” Kromm said. “There have been successes in luring industries, there’s no question about that. But it brought an overall downward pressure on wages.”
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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Here - New South Battles Old Poverty as Right-to-Work Promises Fade - Bloomberg

The numbers show that even as South Carolina trumpeted coups like BMW, the state’s stance toward organized labor has depressed living standards, said Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies in Durham, North Carolina.
“There’s been this kind of undertow of low-wage jobs all along,” Kromm said. “There have been successes in luring industries, there’s no question about that. But it brought an overall downward pressure on wages.”
Meanwhile, states with strong union labor histories such as Michigan, enjoy far better living standards found anywhere else on earth.

Why just take a look at the miracle that is Flint, Michigan and don't forget to enjoy daily walks all about downtown Detroit the hub of the American Working Mans Empire!

Youngtown, Ohio, Pittsburgh and Gary, Indiana all stand as testament to the American unions proud history of raising standards of living wherever it goes.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Here - New South Battles Old Poverty as Right-to-Work Promises Fade - Bloomberg

The numbers show that even as South Carolina trumpeted coups like BMW, the state’s stance toward organized labor has depressed living standards, said Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies in Durham, North Carolina.
“There’s been this kind of undertow of low-wage jobs all along,” Kromm said. “There have been successes in luring industries, there’s no question about that. But it brought an overall downward pressure on wages.”
This is what the GOP envisions for the rest of the country. SC. Thats why this state is so red. The southern strategy convinced poor whites to vote against themselves and now they do it automatically. Workers here believe they deserve to be miserable.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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The numbers show that even as South Carolina trumpeted coups like BMW, the state’s stance toward organized labor has depressed living standards, said Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies in Durham, North Carolina.
Chris Kromm from the liberal "Institute for Southern Studies" needs to do a better job of proving that the depression of living standards was caused by the state's stance towards organized labor.

Apparently he doesn't know the difference in correlation and causation. Chris Kromm is full of sh*t if he thinks South Carolina's centuries-old social problems are due to not being in unions.

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The southern strategy convinced poor whites to vote against themselves and now they do it automatically. Workers here believe they deserve to be miserable.
The southern strategy was to pit whites against blacks, because whites didn't want their kids to be integrated in school with blacks.

Unions have nothing to do with that.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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Chris Kromm from the liberal "Institute for Southern Studies" needs to do a better job of proving that the depression of living standards was caused by the state's stance towards organized labor.

Apparently he doesn't know the difference in correlation and causation.
Indeed, and that's the basis for the entire article.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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The numbers show that even as South Carolina trumpeted coups like BMW, the state’s stance toward organized labor has depressed living standards, said Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies in Durham, North Carolina.
“There’s been this kind of undertow of low-wage jobs all along,” Kromm said. “There have been successes in luring industries, there’s no question about that. But it brought an overall downward pressure on wages.”
http://southernstudies.org/

One glance at the headlines on their front page should tell you everything you need to know about what this organization stands for.

And for those of you not honest enough to admit the glaringly obvious, here's something you can't refute:

"The Institute draws attention to the national importance of the South and offers an exciting vision of the region-a place brimming with a capacity for progressive change that challenges its reputation as a monolithic, conservative stronghold."

Sorry, but the source is about as biased as it gets. You may as well be posting an article written by the head of ACORN.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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This is what the GOP envisions for the rest of the country. SC. Thats why this state is so red. The southern strategy convinced poor whites to vote against themselves and now they do it automatically. Workers here believe they deserve to be miserable.

Wow!

Great point enemy country!

I'll reflect on how good I have it as I drive from my day job here in Detroit to my evening job in Farmington.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Meanwhile, states with strong union labor histories such as Michigan, enjoy far better living standards found anywhere else on earth.

Why just take a look at the miracle that is Flint, Michigan and don't forget to enjoy daily walks all about downtown Detroit the hub of the American Working Mans Empire!

Youngtown, Ohio, Pittsburgh and Gary, Indiana all stand as testament to the American unions proud history of raising standards of living wherever it goes.
Good point.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Chris Kromm from the liberal "Institute for Southern Studies" needs to do a better job of proving that the depression of living standards was caused by the state's stance towards organized labor.

Apparently he doesn't know the difference in correlation and causation. Chris Kromm is full of sh*t if he thinks South Carolina's centuries-old social problems are due to not being in unions.



The southern strategy was to pit whites against blacks, because whites didn't want their kids to be integrated in school with blacks.

Unions have nothing to do with that.
Well, we can both agree South Carolina has something of a "centuries-old social problem".

I guess we can leave it at that for others to do some digging on the subject.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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Meanwhile, states with strong union labor histories such as Michigan, enjoy far better living standards found anywhere else on earth.

Why just take a look at the miracle that is Flint, Michigan and don't forget to enjoy daily walks all about downtown Detroit the hub of the American Working Mans Empire!

Youngtown, Ohio, Pittsburgh and Gary, Indiana all stand as testament to the American unions proud history of raising standards of living wherever it goes.
Ya, it was all the unions fault for the demise of those towns. That's soooo binary!!....
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