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Old 10-11-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Or they could just give up and stay at home which is the most likely set of events that will occur.
It would be best for the country if they did that!
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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If the "Dems" don't like it and none of the Republicans voted to allow it to come to a vote then who the hell cast those 50 yes votes???

50 Democrats voted yes, 3 voted no, How the hell does that mean the Democrats don't like it
They did like it. In fact they loved it so much they changed it from the original bill that Obama wanted. They also loved it so much they wanted zero debate on it.

In the end Harry Reid voted against it too, your Senate majority leader in case you didn't know.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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51 of 53 Democrats voted to pass the bill...Zero Republicans voted to pass the bill...what exactly backfired? There was no doubt that the right side of the aisle would not vote for anything thst might actually put people back to work. If anything backfires it will be the GOP's nay votes backfiring on them.

LOL Really, are you people friggin serious?! You people are either extremely gullible and stupid to think this is really a bill designed for creating jobs, or you know its bs and are just playing along for the sake of liberalism.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL Really, are you people friggin serious?! You people are either extremely gullible and stupid to think this is really a bill designed for creating jobs, or you know its bs and are just playing along for the sake of liberalism.
Even more so to think that a spending bill could be generated and passed in the Senate bypassing the House.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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USA Today is reporting that two Democrat's sided with Republicans, and several more stated that they would vote against the bill as well should it actually have made it past the procedural vote and voted on its merits.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Republicans vote against the jobs bill. Here's the link:

Senate blocks Obama's jobs bill - latimes.com
I believe some Dems sided with the Republicans making it a NO vote.
It's not a jobs bill..it's another stimulus II stuffing the pockets of Obama supporters.

The government can only create government jobs. You want more temp government employees ?
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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Although a majority, it was short of the 60 votes required under Senate rules.
(from the link)

NO NO NO NO NO! THAT IS TOTALLY MISLEADING!

Why the hell are we pretending that needing 60 votes is normal under Senate rules? IT ISN'T! It just seems that way because the Republicans are taking something that's supposed to be used only on rare occasions and they are treating it as if it's a standard procedure. These bills aren't failing. Obama's jobs bill wasn't shot down in the Senate. That is NOT what happened. What happened is that the Republicans didn't allow it to come up for a vote. There is a big difference

Whoever wrote that story doesn't even use the word filibuster. THAT'S WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT!!
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Pa
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51 of 53 Democrats voted to pass the bill...Zero Republicans voted to pass the bill...what exactly backfired? There was no doubt that the right side of the aisle would not vote for anything thst might actually put people back to work. If anything backfires it will be the GOP's nay votes backfiring on them.
How much did the bill twice as big do to put people to work? Short term stop gaps are not the answer.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It was a bad bill..... Yet another example of spend spend spend.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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How much did the bill twice as big do to put people to work? Short term stop gaps are not the answer.

Exactly. And some us warned about that before, but noooooo, liberals wouldnt listen. Hey, let's repeat the same thing over and over and expect a different result! Why is common friggin sense so hard to find these days.

This bill is a joke. It is NOT a jobs bill. Its NOT about jobs and never was. Neither was the previous one. The Stimulus wasnt about stimulating anything.
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