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Old 10-11-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Reid voted against. In case you didn't know that would be your majority leader in the Senate.

They wanted a vote so that there was no debate of the bill. Why is that so hard to understand? You folks keep talking about compromise but apparently have absolutely no clue what that means.
Don't tell these poor souls that this vote was to keep the GOP from debating the abortion of a bill. They knew that if any debate took place the country would find out what they didn't want us to know. However, they can still blame the GOP because it didn't pass. Not one word is said about the fact that the bill had exactly no chance to be passed in the House.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You mean 50 - 49?

The 1 you forgot was Reid. LOL. Wonder why that is...
I heard that some female Senator with a D after her name was hurrying back to vote yes. Wasted hurrying.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Even more so to think that a spending bill could be generated and passed in the Senate bypassing the House.
That is the funniest part of this whole thing. However, they haven't done a lot of legislating the past 3 years that was done properly, anyway.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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It's a little different when you have the leader of the free world claiming it's only one party keeping America from prosperity. There were three democrats that didn't want to vote for the bill and one of them held their nose to do so.

Of course it was never a jobs bill in the first place. It was a payoff the unions bill because they were literally talking about not supporting him in 2012.

These people get mad at CEOs who make lots of money but don't say a word about the demagogue spending $trillions$.
It is only one party keeping America from prosperity, the Republicans. It is the Republicans, not the Democrats, who are preventing these bills from coming up for a vote

I'll say it again, Obama's jobs bill wasn't voted down today. Obama's jobs bill didn't lose a vote, there was no vote on the jobs bill
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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All the Repubs are on record plus a couple of Dems. That is what the vote was for. There was never any thought a filibuster could be avoided. There will be more votes on the individual pieces. More recorded votes .....
Well praise be to Jesus somebody finally uses the F word (filibuster, not the other one)
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Although a majority, it was short of the 60 votes required under Senate rules.
(from the link)

NO NO NO NO NO! THAT IS TOTALLY MISLEADING!

Why the hell are we pretending that needing 60 votes is normal under Senate rules? IT ISN'T! It just seems that way because the Republicans are taking something that's supposed to be used only on rare occasions and they are treating it as if it's a standard procedure. These bills aren't failing. Obama's jobs bill wasn't shot down in the Senate. That is NOT what happened. What happened is that the Republicans didn't allow it to come up for a vote. There is a big difference

Whoever wrote that story doesn't even use the word filibuster. THAT'S WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT!!
You can't have a filibuster if debate isn't allowed and that was what this vote was taken to try to avoid. Debate is something that Dirty Harry just isn't going to allow if he can get around it.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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No, we didn't lose. It was the Republicans that lost. They are making a mockery of the Senate rules and a mockery of the filibuster. That makes them losers
Are you saying that the Dems wanted to filibuster something?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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Another Obama FAILURE.
How the hell do you know? His bill hasn't even come up for a vote
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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No, we didn't lose. It was the Republicans that lost. They are making a mockery of the Senate rules and a mockery of the filibuster. That makes them losers
Truthfully, it was Reid who made a mockery of the Senate rules when he employed the 'nuclear option'.

Flashback 5 days: Reid triggers
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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Senate majority is his own party of Democrats. This bill was all about payback and growing government bureucracy. Jobs, not so much.

Honestly, the failure to pass this bill might be the only thing this Senate has done correctly since Harry Ried became the Senate majority leader.
The bill didn't fail to pass. When, or if, that bill is ever allowed to come up for a vote and it loses that vote then you can say it failed to pass. That's not what happened, what happened is that the Republicans refused to give it a chance
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