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Old 10-13-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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How much should a minimum wage burger flipper pay in taxes?
Something....anything....how about $300 a year?

It's the cost of ONE tattoo....is that too much to ask?
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Congress, not Obama, not the White House, CONGRESS holds the purse strings.
Thank you for pointing that out.

You will also note that in the 40-year history of congressional bailouts, they are only given when Democrats control Congress. When the GOP control Congress, there are no bailouts.

Source: History of U.S. Gov’t Bailouts - ProPublica
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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How much of the disposable income do the 1% have?
It doesn't mean it's there for the taking.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Thank you for pointing that out.

You will also note that in the 40-year history of congressional bailouts, they are only given when Democrats control Congress. When the GOP control Congress, there are no bailouts.

Source: History of U.S. Gov’t Bailouts - ProPublica
Considering that in the 40 year period you cite, Republicans only held the House for 12 years -- and much of those 12 years were in the Clinton glory years when businesses didn't need bailouts, your statistic is meaningless.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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Try living on minimum wage and see how that works out for you.
They sound like people who would never have to.

I would never have the need to work for minimum wage.

I earned more than minimum wage thirty years ago.

What's wrong with you people?

Where's your ambition?

Where's your drive?

No wonder nobody will hire them.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Then it gets back to the right of Americans to buy homes they can afford and thereby escape rent slavery.

I pay more to rent a ROOM than my next door neighbor pays to OWN a 3BR house. How is that fair?
Owning a home is not a right, it's something you earn!! People work and save (or should) their whole lives to buy a house. If you don't do that, then that's on you! You don't just get to own a house just because you live in America. You get to own a house because you've worked and saved for it. Sheesh!

I don't own a home yet, and it may be many many years before I can save up enough money to buy one, but so what. If that's what I want to do, then I"ll do it.

I suppose the next thing you're going to say is "well my neighbor owns a brand new lamborghini, and I have a clunker.. that's not fair either".

Basically you want to keep up with the joneses without putting in the time and effort to do so. Nice ethics there.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The first bail-out bill was enacted when Bush was President.

There is a difference between "principles" and "principle terms".

And Congress is still where such bills originate and have to be passed. Blaming the President, and not blaming Congress is illogical. Congress holds the purse strings of our government.
Actually, the first bailout was in 1970 under Nixon. Congressional bailouts occurred under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43, and Obama. In each and every case Democrats controlled Congress.

The only President that did not see any congressional bailouts was Clinton because for six of his eight years in office he had a fiscally responsible GOP controlled Congress.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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So you're saying people living on a poverty level income should pay the same percentage was millionaires?

You expect burger flippers to pay their own health insurance etc and you want to tax them. How they gonna do both on minimum wage?
No.

I expect people to live at the level of their wages.

Live at the level of your own ability.

To thine own self be true.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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President Bush signed TARP. If you disagree with TARP's terms, resist the knee-jerk response of blaming Obama because it's ideologically inconvenient to blame Bush.
1. Obama is the current president. He supported TARP. It is only logical to protest his support of TARP. Unless you think protesting Bush outside his Dallas home would serve a purpose? Protest Obama.

2. Timothy Geithner is Obama's current treasury secretary. He opposed the regulation of the financial instrument known as derivatives. Financial institutions and banks were able to run amok using derivatives... This directly led to the financial crisis. He should be fired IMO. Obama has the power to do this. Protest Obama.

3. The democrats in congress encouraged lending to low income individuals that ended up defaulting on their mortgages. This led to the subprime mortgage crisis. Obama is the figurehead of the democratic party. Protest Obama.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Jesus said "To whom much is given, much shall be required."

What do you think?
I think that you lefties want to get religious when it suits your needs.

Do you want a theocracy?

Do you want homosexuality outlawed?
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