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Old 10-15-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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No. I want a SMALLER federal government and LOWER taxes, with every earner paying the same federal income tax rate - earn very little, pay very little; earn A LOT; pay A LOT... but EVERY earner contributes via federal income tax. The 51% who pay no federal income tax are TOTALLY exploiting the system for their own personal gain. And then whining that they aren't getting enough. It's sickening.
The people do not make the laws about paying taxes and who pays how much. It is the government that exploits people in what ever way you see it as unfairly. The people have to pay it as the government dictates. How can all of you be on here hurling insults about something people have no control over?
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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And that is all well and good until they get themselves into trouble.
And when more fall into the same category then it becomes "unfair".

Over $1 trillion in unpaid student loan debt and these graduates can't find jobs and have loan payments coming up. Now it's "unfair" ?
You may very well consider it unfair, but others may not. Personally, I do not consider it unfair when someone has to borrow massively to get the education they want and then is required to pay back what they borrow, with interest. If they did not want to be in debt, they should not have borrowed the money.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:49 AM
 
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You may very well consider it unfair, but others may not. Personally, I do not consider it unfair when someone has to borrow massively to get the education they want and then is required to pay back what they borrow, with interest. If they did not want to be in debt, they should not have borrowed the money.
I agree. And when people stop doing this prices will have to go down.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I agree. And when people stop doing this prices will have to go down.
People get loans for their education because they want to postpone doing any work while they are getting an education. I managed to get through college without any loans, but it required working while I paid for my education. In either case, it has no effect on the price of an education.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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People get loans for their education because they want to postpone doing any work while they are getting an education. I managed to get through college without any loans, but it required working while I paid for my education. In either case, it has no effect on the price of an education.
I have a niece that did exactly that. She used student loan money for living expenses and social life as well as her academic education..all because she didn't want to work while going to school.

4 years later...$96K in loans and she's a receptionist at a daycare center.
And with the loan payments, she's barely making it.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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The people do not make the laws about paying taxes and who pays how much. It is the government that exploits people in what ever way you see it as unfairly.
Only up until liberals insist and demand that a certain group of income earners pay a higher tax rate than others. Liberals are demanding exploiters who always want more and more but want someone else to pay for it.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Only up until liberals insist and demand that a certain group of income earners pay a higher tax rate than others. Liberals are demanding exploiters who always want more and more but want someone else to pay for it.

The original income tax demanded that the top 5 percent pay a higher rate (4 percent?) than the bottom 95 percent (zero).
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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The original income tax demanded that the top 5 percent pay a higher rate (4 percent?) than the bottom 95 percent (zero).
Doesn't make it fair, just makes it exist. Income tax never should have been instituted to begin with.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I have a niece that did exactly that. She used student loan money for living expenses and social life as well as her academic education..all because she didn't want to work while going to school.

4 years later...$96K in loans and she's a receptionist at a daycare center.
And with the loan payments, she's barely making it.
Your niece did what most do when they get to college. I knew someone with a degree in mechanical engineering working as a janitor, also struggling to pay back her loans.

I was not raised that way. I was taught that if I really wanted something, I had to earn the money to pay for it first, or go without. When I bought my home, I did so a piece at a time in the amount I could afford. It took much longer to build my home, but everything was paid for in advance.

The only time I will consider getting a loan is in the event of an emergency, and even then it will be for a very short term. I find it personally repulsive to be in debt to anyone.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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"We are ok with scrapping by to live mediocre lifestyles"
"We are ok with obeying our corporate masters"
"We are ok with feeling like we accomplished something in our life by just getting by"
"We will obey our masters, they know what's best for us"

We are the 53%
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