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Old 10-13-2011, 04:22 AM
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Originally Posted by vamos View Post
Whining about the job situation on CD by conservatives: Totally acceptable.
Whining about job situation in real life by progressives: Totally unacceptable.

Go figure.
True. How about this one:
In the delusional conservative universe...
whining conservatives = just concerned citizens exercising their rights
whining liberals = filthy marxist garbage who should be shut down.

Go figure.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tvdxer View Post
Interestingly, all the protestors I've seen wanted decent work at a fair wage. They certainly weren't demanding handouts for their livelihood.
actually the protestors were a mixed bag. there were some sincere protestors who want the guilty punished and actual wall street reform, but then there were those who wanted all their student loans forgiven and other freebies paid for by the rest of us.

i think if religious groups want to insert themselves in politics they should pay taxes like a business entity-which they are clearly becoming. i guess they never heard of separation of church and state.

what happened to the idea of churches just doing good works with the money they collected? the pope seems to be sucking up a lot of money and not spreading it around himself. vatican wealth is over 15 billion dollars and the vatican does not pay taxes:

Nevertheless, the Vatican refused to pay the taxes—which might run upwards of $15 million a year-citing the Lateran Treaty of 1929 between Pope Pius XI and Mussolini. At that time, Italy agreed to pay the Pope $39 million in cash and $52 million in 5% government bonds as indemnity for losses suffered by the Pope when the Papal States were incorporated into Italy in 1870. Under Pius XII, Vatican money was shrewdly invested in stocks and real estate, and the capital has multiplied manyfold. The treaty also recognized the sovereignty of the Vatican, and a 1942 law written "in the spirit of the Concordat" exempted the Vatican from paying certain taxes then existing on dividends.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz1aetKRn9V

what's that about "doing the right thing"?

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Old 10-13-2011, 07:44 AM
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Actually Marxism has some echoes of Christianity.

What's interesting is that the leftists want only evolution and Darwinism taught in schools but they don't really believe in the fundamentals of Darwinism and that's that not eveyone is meant to survive.

We also have separation of Church and State so religious teachings like charity aren't part of government policies. We were based on Christianity somewhat but we've moved far away from it.

The biggest difference between Jesus' teachings and Marxism is that when Jesus said "feed the poor" he wasn't talking to government officials, he didn't mean welfare handouts and government confiscating the earnings of working people, but Marxism requires big fascist government.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:58 AM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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If they were protesting in front of the houses of Congress 200+ miles down I-95, many of us would be willing to take them seriously.

As it stands now, taking them seriously is impossible for most of us.
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