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Old 10-14-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Southwest Desert
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Originally Posted by kaimuki View Post
Ann Coulter is just one of many well-paid provocateurs. She is paid to stir up trouble. She is no different than Limbaugh or Olbermann.
I agree...She makes a fortune with her "hate mongering" books and speeches.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Rosa Parks was a secretary for the NAACP. She deliberately "bucked the system" at the request of her boss. This act was 100% orchestrated by the NAACP.
lol. Wow. Speculation at best.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Rosa Parks was a secretary for the NAACP. She deliberately "bucked the system" at the request of her boss. This act was 100% orchestrated by the NAACP.
Leaving aside your characterization because it doesn't address the timing of the event. Rosa Parks did it during the Republican Eisenhower administration, prior to the Kennedy administration, which conflicts with Coulter's reference to the event. Which is particular humorous to me because of rogerbacon's comment in the OP. Maybe rogerbacon meant that as a criticism of Coulter.

Coulter:
If Richard Nixon had won the 1960 election instead of John F. Kennedy -- as some say he did -- there never would have been a need for Rosa Parks, the Freedom Rides and the rest of the civil disobedience of the civil rights movement.

rogerbacon:
It's too bad so much of this history is not taught in schools today but considering who controls the schools, it is really not surprising.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Top Ten OWS News List
10. I've heard of a grass roots movement, but a grass stains movement?
9. So this what they mean by the great unwashed masses.
8. Its the invasion of the body scratchers.
7. There are aggressive panhandler laws, maybe that applies to their demands you pay off their student loans and their rent?
6. One had a sign " Will Bathe For Food."
5. Well, they at least chased the rats away.
4. They've had some real estate agents brokering choice spots on the pavement.
3. One of the protestors is so broke he's living out of his limousine.
2. OWS Code word for police car : "Portajohn".
1. Some undercover FBI agents were spotted urging the protestors to riot, Eric Holder must be getting ready to uncover a diversion, errrr.... sinister terrorist plot.

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Old 10-14-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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"If Richard Nixon had won the 1960 election instead of John F. Kennedy -- as some say he did -- there never would have been a need for Rosa Parks, the Freedom Rides and the rest of the civil disobedience of the civil rights movement."

One of the reasons VP Nixon lost the 1960 election was his unwillingness to assist Dr. King Jr. when he was arrested shortly before the election. The John and Robert Kennedy did and they picked up a lot of votes for there efforts.
That is true that this is the one event that caused most Blacks to think thier future was with the Democrat party and it remains that way today. The reality is that, up to that point, Nixon had a much better record on civil rights with regard to Blacks that Kennedy did. Kennedy though was much better in the spotligfht and knew a photo-op when he saw one. He exploited the situation masterfully. Nixon was not exactly the best communicator and never really understood the power of the media untul it was turned against him full force later in his career.

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Leaving aside your characterization because it doesn't address the timing of the event. Rosa Parks did it during the Republican Eisenhower administration, prior to the Kennedy administration, which conflicts with Coulter's reference to the event. Which is particular humorous to me because of rogerbacon's comment in the OP. Maybe rogerbacon meant that as a criticism of Coulter.

Coulter:
If Richard Nixon had won the 1960 election instead of John F. Kennedy -- as some say he did -- there never would have been a need for Rosa Parks, the Freedom Rides and the rest of the civil disobedience of the civil rights movement.
Yeah, I was pretty sure the Rosa Parks thing was pre-60's. However, when we think of the Black civil rights 'era' we tend to think of the 60's (or at least I do). Most of the events she mentioned happened in the 60's.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Yeah, I was pretty sure the Rosa Parks thing was pre-60's. However, when we think of the Black civil rights 'era' we tend to think of the 60's (or at least I do). Most of the events she mentioned happened in the 60's.
Lets take a look at one of the other events Coulter mentions, which did take place during the Kennedy Administration.

If Richard Nixon had won the 1960 election instead of John F. Kennedy -- as some say he did -- there never would have been a need for Rosa Parks, the Freedom Rides and the rest of the civil disobedience of the civil rights movement.

But as soon as the Democrats got control of the White House, enforcement of the Supreme Court's civil rights rulings came to a crashing halt.


Freedom Rides

During the spring of 1961, student activists from the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) launched the Freedom Rides to challenge segregation on interstate buses and bus terminals. Traveling on buses from Washington, D.C., to Jackson, Mississippi, the riders met violent opposition in the Deep South, garnering extensive media attention and eventually forcing federal intervention from John F. Kennedy’s administration.
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Following an earlier ruling, Morgan v. Virginia (1946), that made segregation in interstate transportation illegal, in 1960 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Boynton v. Virginia that segregation in the facilities provided for interstate travelers, such as bus terminals, restaurants, and restrooms, was also unconstitutional.
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Nevertheless, on 17 May 1961, seven men and three women rode from Nashville to Birmingham to resume the Freedom Rides. Just before reaching Birmingham, the bus was pulled over and directed to the Birmingham station, where all of the riders were arrested for defying segregation laws.
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Federal intervention began to take place behind the scenes as Attorney General Robert Kennedy called the Greyhound Company and demanded that it find a driver. Seeking to diffuse the dangerous situation, John Seigenthaler, a Department of Justice representative accompanying the freedom riders, met with a reluctant Alabama Governor John Patterson. Seigenthaler’s maneuver resulted in the bus’ departure for Montgomery with a full police escort the next morning.
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During this time, King was on a speaking tour in Chicago. Upon learning of the violence, he returned to Montgomery, where he staged a rally at Ralph Abernathy’s First Baptist Church. In his speech, King blamed Governor Patterson for ‘‘aiding and abetting the forces of violence’’ and called for federal intervention, declaring that ‘‘the federal government must not stand idly by while blood thirsty mobs beat nonviolent students with impunity’’ (King, 21 May 1961). As King spoke, a threatening white mob gathered outside. From inside the church, King called Attorney General Kennedy, who assured him that the federal government would protect those inside the church. Kennedy swiftly mobilized federal marshals who used tear gas to keep the mob at bay. Federal marshals were later replaced by the Alabama National Guard, who escorted people out of the church at dawn.
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On 29 May 1961, the Kennedy administration announced that it had directed the ICC to ban segregation in all facilities under its jurisdiction, but the rides continued.
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On 1 November 1961, the ICC ruling that segregation on interstate buses and facilities was illegal took effect.


Despite Coulter's assertion, the Kennedy Administration did enforce the Supreme Court's rulings and did intervene.

Coulter's version of history is unrecognizable to anybody who knows the facts, but then she is not a historian she is a political pundit who is practiced at spinning events for her own purposes.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I agree...She makes a fortune with her "hate mongering" books and speeches.
Have you ever read one of her columns from beginning to end or do you get your info about Coulter from MM, Kos or ThinkProg? I think know the answer.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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5. Well, they at least chased the rats away.
So far, I don't think so.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Have you ever read one of her columns from beginning to end or do you get your info about Coulter from MM, Kos or ThinkProg? I think know the answer.
I have. She starts out fine, making Her point and all, then about half way through it turns into a rant about things that have zero to do with her own topic. Always makes think of some female (some argue that point) working for the Ministry of Propaganda in 1930s Germany. Quoting the good parts of one of her "articles" is the best thing a rightie can do, if you post her entire "article" people walk away with a "what the heck was that" felling.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's too bad so much of this history is not taught in schools today but considering who controls the schools, it is really not surprising.
That's because schools are controlled by *******s.

If Republican legislation gets enacted, you end up with a WPA for minorities. The unions get smacked down and Black men and women have a real chance and learning craft and eventually owning their own businesses, real businesses like plumbing, carpentry, electrical contractors, construction and such and they advance rapidly to the Middle Class and can afford to send their kids to the best colleges and then they advance to the Upper Middle Class and everyone benefits.

Instead, we got the Democrat's Grotesque Society which destroyed the Black family and left us with the legacy we have today.
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