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Old 10-24-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rlarson21 View Post
bull honky

i made 30,000 last year and i paid TWO GRAND in income taxes. I am WELL UNDER The 50% mark in average salary.

LIES LIES LILES
? are you sure about this?


I think you need to pay someone to do your taxes.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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A little more food for thought.

Instead of bemoaning the number of Americans who do not pay income taxes perhaps a little concern should be directed at why an increasing number of Americans are falling below the income point where they would incur greater tax liability.
yep and the reason why

high taxes...and jobs going overseas due to liberal globalist policies
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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? are you sure about this?


I think you need to pay someone to do your taxes.

A childless adult earning $30,000 who does not itemize will pay TWO GRAND a year in federal income tax. Won't help him one bit to have someone do his taxes.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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yep and the reason why

high taxes...and jobs going overseas due to liberal globalist policies

Think global, act local.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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No I din't buy this Republican crap that people who have earned income don't pay taxes even if they get most of it back when they file a tax form that shows tax credits or exemptions! The money is still taken out of the weekly or monthly paycheck and the money is in a government account and is used for government purposes for days,weeks, months or as much as one year. It earns the wage earner no interest or investment income and he can't even use it as collateral in a loan! So the wage earner has lost control of this money and he even has to go to the trouble of filing a tax return to get it back. The government does not send this money back at the end of the tax year if he fails to file a return. If you fail to file a return you not only fail to get this money back but you are penalized and could lose the money altogether if the penalty exceeds the refund.
Good point!! The republicans also do not mention that the illegal aliens that pay taxes/social security under false ssn don't get any of that back either
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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you got ripped off

I made 60k and paid NOTHING in federal income or federal payroll taxes..infact the government sent me MORE than had been deducted from income AND payroll taxes

I've paid several hundred dollars in federal income tax on $15K income. Have I been ripped off also?
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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tax EVERYONE EQUALLY at the same rate, and cut spending

Neither the FairTax nor 999 tax everyone equally at the same rate.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:49 AM
 
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yep and the reason why

high taxes...and jobs going overseas due to liberal globalist policies
Do you think that at sometime in the near or distant future you might figure out a way to discuss an issue with a bit more depth than posting the meme of the day?

As for what you did post, there is nothing liberal or conservative about globalization, a silly term to begin with since world's economy has been "globalized" since one man walked over a mountain and found another man with selling something that he couldn't find at home. Globalization is a fact of life which is why both conservatives and liberals have done nothing more than to set a few rules about how it will be conducted.

As for high taxes,

If taxes are so high that the wealthiest and most taxed members of society just keep getting wealthier while those who used to pay taxes get poorer, it begs the question, what fracking logic would lead one to conclude that "high" taxes are the working poor's problem?
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:00 AM
 
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There is no reality fail. Truth fail on your part. Property taxes were not lowered. There was a cap put on the increase.

Property taxes were not lowered? See this from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association website:

Proposition 13: A Look Back | Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association
Proposition 13: A Look Back


May 10, 2006 by Joel Fox In the Beginning, there was Proposition 13.
On June 6th, 1978, nearly two-thirds of California's voters passed Proposition 13, reducing property tax rates on homes, businesses, and farms by about 57%.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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A childless adult earning $30,000 who does not itemize will pay TWO GRAND a year in federal income tax. Won't help him one bit to have someone do his taxes.
only if you are an idiot and use the 1040ez

the retirement(401k) credit...is 400 dollars it self

and if you own a home...big credits...the energy credit(can also be used by renters), the mortgage credit, and the big one..the property tax deduction

any health care costs..also written off


a smart 30k earner (even those unmarried with no kids) will pay nothing in federal income taxes
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