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Old 10-18-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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Yes, the cowards who can't find work due to outsourcing and company cutbacks should pull up his bootstraps, move back home to mommy and flip burgers while he goes back to school at 30.

Total fairness there, companies do what they want when they want and you the lonely human just shut up and take it.



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If someone doesn't like it..they can focus on gaining a skill that businesses value...if someone is going to major in something useless to a business then they deserve to flp burgers...
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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I think its funny that people come on here blaming the OWS protesters for not having jobs while overlooking the rest of the 14 million unemployed and not blaming them yet incorrectly blaming President Obama for their misfortunes. Why are you people differentiating The Unemployed? They are all in the same boat. You make it seem like they weren't out there trying to find jobs and what not. I mean there's no difference from the Unemployed construction worker to the unemployed College graduate. Why assign blame to one group and then admonish blame from the other? But I see everyone here has an agenda they want to spout about instead of talking facts....
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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Right! Only well connected financial corporations should be bailed out. Mere students of course should be held to financial responsibility. IMHO either everybody is protected by bankruptcy or nobody is. If ING can be bailed out so can J.Q. Student.
No one should be bailed..the argument that the banks got it, now everyone is simply a non starter. Two wrongs don't make a right...
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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I'm getting so sick of the simplistic characterization that you are either 1) a hard worker, for capitalism, corporations, hate dem dare hippies doing their cute OWS thing, hate Obama, etc etc.

or 2) don't work, live off debts, leach off society, vote for Obama, identify yourself as a socialist, etc etc.

It is more difficult than that outside of your little black and white bubble. There are people like me that work their ass off of an average of 50 hours a every week, doesn't get a vacation day for a whole year, not even a sick day, am educated as an engineer, had a child and got a whopping 2 days off after he was born, get paid to give it all away to taxes and to get by, etc etc.

Yet I hate leaches in my apartment complex that don't work at all, and I feel most of them live off state subsidies to live there as it seems none of them work. I hate unions that limit my company from working in certain cities in the N.E. and slowing the progress of everything down so some chump can make as much as me with a degree for doing nothing. I hate republicans and large corporations forcing the tax load on the working man such as myself to pay the way for America to end up shipping jobs and the tax base over seas while they get off for nothing. I don't like seeing the limititation of the middle class. I see my generation (borderline of X and Y) going to have far less than all the boomers ever had. You people didn't work hard, the generation before you did. They were born in a depression and fought WW2 so you could have it easy. Now we have to pay for you aging people to spit on us and tell us how you worked hard.

So I don't fit in with any of you. I don't live in a black and white bubble where it is a simple Hippie socialist who doesnt work vs Mr allmight Coporate douche who works hard is a "job creater".
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: World
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Why has college education become a business in USA? Why students in UK, Australia, Japan, India, China, Canada have little to no debt while American students are pounded with student debt? This is because corporate lust for profit has infested the Great American Education system? Why are Wall Street companies hiring in countries like India where students have no debt as compared to hard working American students who have tonnes of loans due to overpriced university education and only options are working at walmart/fast food joints for minimum wage salary.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Cry me a river...I had 70K in school loans and have been paying 10 yrs on them, I don't want a handout to pay for them. I ran the bills up and I am responsible...so are these people asking for handouts...
Yes, one of their demands is FREE college education for everyone.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Personally, I think the ongoing uproar over student loans is wildly misplaced. People aren't able to pay student loans because of the economy and lack of jobs, not because an evil student loan company happened to engage in irresponsible lending. What we're witnessing right now is a population of former students who are having a rough time paying their loans, and the resulting cries are that they should be relieved of the repayment obligation. I believe this to be a fundamentally flawed approach to personal responsibility. You read the Promissory Note. You signed on the dotted line. You took on the risk and hoped for a reward. That's why it's called "risk." These folks need to accept their fate and work hard to try to reverse it during these trying times.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is all that you are gauranteed. You are NOT guaranteed success. Those who are calling for the ability to discharge student loans are merely seeking to circumvent their responsibilities. I believe this to be a terrbily wrong attitude, and unfortunately American's seem to have embraced it.

"Bailouts" were a horrible precedent. Now our nation "expects" it. Nauseating.
Well put.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I know 3 different people that owed more than 75K and have BKd just to dump the debt.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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I'm getting so sick of the simplistic characterization that you are either 1) a hard worker, for capitalism, corporations, hate dem dare hippies doing their cute OWS thing, hate Obama, etc etc.

or 2) don't work, live off debts, leach off society, vote for Obama, identify yourself as a socialist, etc etc.

It is more difficult than that outside of your little black and white bubble. There are people like me that work their ass off of an average of 50 hours a every week, doesn't get a vacation day for a whole year, not even a sick day, am educated as an engineer, had a child and got a whopping 2 days off after he was born, get paid to give it all away to taxes and to get by, etc etc.

Yet I hate leaches in my apartment complex that don't work at all, and I feel most of them live off state subsidies to live there as it seems none of them work. I hate unions that limit my company from working in certain cities in the N.E. and slowing the progress of everything down so some chump can make as much as me with a degree for doing nothing. I hate republicans and large corporations forcing the tax load on the working man such as myself to pay the way for America to end up shipping jobs and the tax base over seas while they get off for nothing. I don't like seeing the limititation of the middle class. I see my generation (borderline of X and Y) going to have far less than all the boomers ever had. You people didn't work hard, the generation before you did. They were born in a depression and fought WW2 so you could have it easy. Now we have to pay for you aging people to spit on us and tell us how you worked hard.

So I don't fit in with any of you. I don't live in a black and white bubble where it is a simple Hippie socialist who doesnt work vs Mr allmight Coporate douche who works hard is a "job creater".
BRAVO MAN!!! I am totally with you--especially on the part in bold. I'd love to see legit responses to the truth in your post, instead of the usual attack and blame.

I'll wait...
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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I know 3 different people that owed more than 75K and have BKd just to dump the debt.
You cant bk student loans.

FinAid | Answering Your Questions | Student Loan Bankruptcy Exception
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