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Old 10-19-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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West Virginia has hd a Democratic govenor since 2001. And of the last 75 years, it has had a D governor for about 2/3 of the time.

WV currently has 2 Democratic senators. They have not elected a Republican Senator since 1957.

So, is it a red state or blue state?
Going by the standard use of Red v Blue...it's clearly RED.

I'm sorry but it is a term that much more current than 1957.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Here is another interesting caviat. we hear how blue states have higher wages etc. but when you hear that you dont hear all the necessary information.

Inflationary factors totally skew those numbers. for example

InflationData: Cost of Living Calculator

The cost of living in Dallas is lower than the cost of living in New York (Manhattan). If you make $100,000.00 in New York (Manhattan) and move to Dallas, you will only need to make $45,133.54 ($54,866.46 less) to maintain the same buying power.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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Here is another link that shows the myth of the blue state advantage

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/saving-money/blog/devil-details/10-best-worst-states-to-make-a-living/4374/

This shows "best states" and "worst states" to make a living.

5 blue states 4 red states and one purple state.

1. Illinois: $41,987 (Blue)
2. Washington: $41,456. (Blue)
3. Texas: $41,427 (Red)
4. Virginia: $41,120 (Red)
5. Delaware: $39,105 (Blue)
6. Massachusetts: $38,665 (Blue)
7. Georgia: $38,228(Red)
8. Tennessee: $38,038 (Red)
9. Colorado: $38,020(Purple)
10. Minnesota: $37,721 (Blue)


Where are the worst states to make a living?
6 Blue 3 Red and one that is being hotly debated (WV)
1. Hawaii: $22,108 (Blue)
2. Maine: $29,159 (Blue)
3. Montana: $29,496 (Red)
4. California: $29,772 (Blue)
5. Vermont: $29,986 (Blue)
6. Oregon: $30,343 (Blue)
7. Rhode Island: $30,612 (Blue)
8. Mississippi: $30,953 (Red)
9. West Virginia: 31,357 (Red or Blue or Purple?)
10. South Carolina: $31,636 (Red)
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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The Red states recieve more Federal subsudy in the form of Farm supports...
'Blue' states get farm subsidies as well. The top 5 states receiving farm subsidies in the past 15 years are 1 Texas, 2 Iowa, 3 Illinois, 4 Minnesota, 5 Nebraska.

Three of the top five are blue. And it's not like farmers are standing on the edge of their field with their hands out. It's well-known that the majority of farm subsidies end up in the hands of big companies like Monsanto and Cargill, not individual farmers.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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There is no set definition. The most common standard is Presidential vote back in 08.

But don't try and wiggle out of it.

It's basically States filled with your type, versus States filled with my type. And you don't rate so well.

That would be OK if your type would stop trying to lecture people who know better how to run a government. Stick to what you know. Growing crops and whittling sticks.
Well, I am a Repub who lives in Massachusetts. I guess that, despite evidence to the contrary, I am uneducated, poor and have a lower IQ than my wife and several of my neighbors.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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This isn't a difficult question. Blue states are more urban than red states. Urban areas attract business, which offer higher-paying jobs. Urban areas are heavily populated, which drives up real estate values. A $50,000 salary in Omaha is worth over $100,000 in San Francisco after cost-of-living adjustments and real estate is 400% more expensive in SF.

The six-figure earner in San Francisco appears to be richer, but after cost-of-living adjustments their money goes half (or less) as far as it does in a red state. They're still paying taxes on a $100,000+ salary though, while the Omaha resident is paying taxes on half that and living a comparable lifestyle.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Here is another round of interesting statistics that explodes the myth that blue states are better than red states.

In Education Wisconsin is held up as a great example of education while Texas is talked about as being proof the red state conservatives are idiots.

In all catagories Wisconsin scores higher than Texas as seen at National Report Card http://nationsreportcard.gov/about.asp

However when you look deeper you find that it really is not what it appears.

Wisconsin has a much higher white population. Texas much higher ethnic minority. When these factors are included, Texas White, Hispanic and Black students do better than their Wisconsin counterparts. So why is Wisconsin at the top of the heap and Texas at the bottom? Because these factors are not included. Texas is doing a better job teaching kids but because the socio-economic conditions in Wisconsin start off in a more advantageous position, WI gets a not it does not deserve and Texas which actually serves its minority children better, takes a hit it does not deserve.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Well, I am a Repub who lives in Massachusetts. I guess that, despite evidence to the contrary, I am uneducated, poor and have a lower IQ than my wife and several of my neighbors.
Is your IQ high enough to know we are talking about States characteristics as a whole, versus individual citizens in those States? I don't believe so.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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I'd guess the IQ of the whites matter as well. Germans, Scandanvians, Ashkenazi Jews (mainly in the North/Northeast) have higher IQ's than Scotts-Irish who migrated South.

Sorry but that's the brutal truth.
What's your opinion of the IQ of a poster who believes debunked charts?
snopes.com: State I.Q. Voting Patterns

Super-Economy: Blue State and Red State IQ is identical

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Going by the standard use of Red v Blue...it's clearly RED.

I'm sorry but it is a term that much more current than 1957.
Where did I say it was used since 1957? In this same thread I said it was used since 2000.

Democratic governor for 50 of the last 75 years. Democratic Senators for more than 50 years.
I think Jay Rockefeller would disagree with your assessment.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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Is your IQ high enough to know we are talking about States characteristics as a whole, versus individual citizens in those States? I don't believe so.
Well OK, more residents of my state (MA) describe themselves as conservative: 32%, than they do liberal: 28%.

Further, if we were going by what people self describe themselves as, then there would be no blue states at all.

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