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Old 10-20-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Why are we making politics a personal matter? You can disagree with his policies, and even his statements, but to try to analyze a man you've never met, especially one who is smarter and more educated than you, is just absurd and does nothing for political discourse.
0-bamabot alert!

You can "analyze" someone from their continued public statements and proclamations.

He may be "smarter" than you and those you pal around with but fails overall. Remember, he is not the smartest man in the world. Only those who follow him and have proclaimed him so think it true.

BTW, continued adoration and blind support of his agenda truly do nothing for political discourse. There can be no discourse when you blindly agree with everything he does.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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The only man who could've fixed the greatest recession since 1929, within three years, is Jesus Christ. If you believe otherwise I have some stocks I'd like to sell you.

Now there is a truly thought provoking example of "political discourse"
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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Ahhhh but you need to read my post in the correct context. I was responding to someone who said if times are still hard, that means Obama didn't make the right decisions. His implication was that if Obama had made the right decisions, the economy would be back to normal by now, and that's just not true.

As for his policies, most politicians, even McCain and many of the current GOP candidates, agreed with the stimulus package. Putting regulation back on Wall Street was necessary as one of the many reasons for the bubble was the deregulation. As Ron Paul has been hammering in the debates, we need to stop these bubbles. Whether "demonization" and "rhetoric" had any effects on the markets is pure speculation. And do you really think if Cash for Clunkers was never implemented, our unemployment rate would be lower and my house would be worth more today?
Have you, in your wisdom, ever considered that maybe it was 0-bama agreeing with what others were saying and claiming it as his own?

Just a more likely thought addressing your claims.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Republicans have made and are still making all the wrong choices.

Wrong about George Bush being elected
Wrong about WMDs
Wrong about the extent of involvement in ideological wars
Wrong to think this country could afford a "War on Terror"
Wrong about how to run an economy
Wrong about how to keep the deficit down
Wrong about health care
Wrong about jobs
Wrong about the necessity for H-1B Visas
Wrong about displacing qualified Americans
Wrong about how to negotiate with the Middle East
Wrong to follow Dick Cheney
Wrong to reelect George Bush
Wrong about the effectiveness of deregulation
Wrong about the effectiveness of "trickle-down" economics
Wrong to give huge tax breaks for the rich
Wrong to shun blacks
Wrong to shun asians
Wrong to shun mexicans
Wrong to shun gays
Wrong to favor indian labor over american
Wrong to shun care for the elderly
Wrong to shun care for the sick and poor
Wrong to warmonger
Wrong to favor racial discrimination
Wrong to pretend racial discrimination doesn't exist
Wrong about abortion
Wrong about how to handle a post-Bush economy
Wrong about President Obama
Wrong about Democrats
Wrong to be the party of the bigoted South
Wrong by not denouncing racism and bigotry
Wrong to be represented by ignorant Beck and Limbaugh
Wrong to have more in common with the KKK than not
Wrong to obstruct Obama leading to failure
Wrong to obstruct Obama and pretend it's Obama's fault
Wrong to downgrade with the tea party
Wrong to pretend tea party is a separate "movement"
Wrong to be associated with tea party racism
Wrong to ignore the problems caused by Bush
Wrong to ignore the problems caused by Republicans under Bush
Wrong to ignore the problems caused by Congressional Republicans under Obama.
Wrong to embrace Sarah Palin
Wrong to be represented by rejects like Paul, Romney, and Perry.
Wrong to be represented by rejects like Bachmann and Cain
Wrong to try to preserve the hierarachy that emerged from slavery
Wrong in how to deal with illegal immigration
Wrong and ineffective in dealing with the rise of street gangs
Wrong to be the party favored by the most severe racists in this country
...
...
... so on and so forth.

No question that President Obama holds the superior position in all that he does and says. We're fortunate that he's here through 2016.
All of the above are YOUR opinions. And you know what they say about opinions.....
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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What this shows, is you do not know what Narcissism is. But that's OK, the people you are talking to, probably don't either.
But you and your statement certainly provide an accurate definition.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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George W. Bush, in his book decision points, says he made all the right decisions also, and Dick Cheney has claimed in several interviews that he doesn't regret any of his decisions. These guys single handedly ruined the economy and got us in two messy wars. If thats not "narcissism" I don't know what is.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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Why are we making politics a personal matter? You can disagree with his policies, and even his statements, but to try to analyze a man you've never met, especially one who is smarter and more educated than you, is just absurd and does nothing for political discourse.
I am smarter than Obama ever hopes to be.

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Average unemployment rate by year. Does anyone still believe obamanomics works?

Clinton 1993 6.9%
Clinton 1994 6.1%
Clinton 1995 5.6%
Clinton 1996 5.4%
Clinton 1997 4.9%
Clinton 1998 4.5%
Clinton 1999 4.2%
Clinton 2000 4%
Bush 2001 4.7%
Bush 2002 5.8%
Bush 2003 6%
Bush 2004 5.5%
Bush 2005 5.1%
Bush 2006 4.6%
Bush 2007 4.6%
Bush 2008 5.8%
Obama 2009 9.3%
Obama 2010 9.6%
1994 was the year Clinton changed the way unemployment was calculated so that he wouldn't lose the '96 Election.

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His implication was that if Obama had made the right decisions, the economy would be back to normal by now, and that's just not true.
Some of you just can't seem to grasp the fact that your economy cannot be fixed. That is what makes me infinitely more intelligent than Obama ever could be. Knowing that your economy cannot be fixed, I would not have jeopardized the future of the US by wasting $4.3 TRILLION that is now part of your National Debt, and which will plague you for the next several decades.

The only thing that Obama has done is create infinitely more economic problems for you that you will never be able to fix.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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George W. Bush, in his book decision points, says he made all the right decisions also, and Dick Cheney has claimed in several interviews that he doesn't regret any of his decisions. These guys single handedly ruined the economy and got us in two messy wars. If thats not "narcissism" I don't know what is.
You are right. You don't know what it is.
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