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Old 11-09-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Pls read atricle III sujects naturels

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Pls review how the Founders translated naturels

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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remember readers...the Obots told us naturels cannot possibly mean natural born. Remember our perpetual Obot wrote "naturels" referring to Vattel. The Founders wrote naturels means natural born.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Vattel and the American revolution: Our perpetual Obot stated Vattel played no role. Gordon Wood writes Vattel played a role.

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Old 11-09-2011, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Lets return a moment to Morse...he referenced Vattels Droit ded Gens, our perpetual Obot posted the same quote below. Morse writes naturels means natural born are born to citizen parents. Our perpetual Obot tells us naturels only means naturels NOTHING MORE. Do the readers now understand the purpose of the Obots mission. They are here to distort the truth.

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Old 11-09-2011, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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This thread has shown Obots have no legitimacy, they should stamp their feet elsewhere. We have shown natural born citizens are born to citizen parents. We have shown Wong Kim Ark was affirmed a citizen because his parents were domiciled and established permanent residency.

We have proven Rubio is not a natural born citizen.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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remember readers...the Obots told us naturels cannot possibly mean natural born. Remember our perpetual Obot wrote "naturels" referring to Vattel. The Founders wrote naturels means natural born.
got it. Obots have an aversion to truth - the question is why they work so very hard to misinform us. Why? This can't be about Obama, he's virtually gone, this has to more in the direction of making the Constitution irrelevant, or at the very least changing the fabric of it's meanng and significance. Why?
 
Old 11-10-2011, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Founders did translate sujects naturel to natural born. It is in the Congressional record. I have the document.
Not in any translation of Vattel. To this very day, every single English translation of Vattel in world History has translated "naturels" to mean "natives."

Every single one.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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That's what you want to hang your hat on? Really?
LOL.. not at all. You might have noticed that I have so many hats to hang in this debate you often do not even know what you are arguing against.

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You DO realize that translations are never 100% word for word, right? Meaning is frequently lost when one insists on refusing to consider the contextual clues, as you do. That does explain your subpar reading comprehension skills, though.
This is all pointless hand waving. English common law requires no translation at all.

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The other Vattel passage I quoted strongly suggests Obama isn't even a U.S. citizen at all. Just like the DOUBTS Minor v. Happersett discusses. Hmmm... sure seems like SCOTUS read Vattel.
Actually, the other Vattel passage you quoted puts an even finer point on the fact that Vattel's discussion of continental citizenship law bears no resemblance to that of either England or the US, further proving its irrelevance to Presidential eligibility.

Again... cite a single example of where a single Framer or Founder ever quoted Vattel approvingly on any issue of citizenship.

Just one.

I'm very patient.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Alexander Porter Morse wrote Naturels means natural born.
Alexander Porter Morse was not even born when the Constitution was framed.
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