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False. You must APPLY for many of those citizenships and provide substantial documentation to have your request for citizenship approved. See the link to the Italian Consulate's APPLICATION.
This is, as usual, an IC lie. He has no idea what he is talking about, so he just makes stuff up. You apply to have a pre-existing citizenship recognized.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
And the UK doesn't grant citizenship to anyone born abroad beyond the first generation.
So? You still have to apply to have your citizenship recognized.
Observers can plainly see how desperate you and your buddies are getting, to invent some ridiculous scenario to try support an absurd argument, along with the name-calling. You lost a long time ago.
This is, as usual, an IC lie. He has no idea what he is talking about, so he just makes stuff up. You apply to have a pre-existing citizenship recognized.
No. HistorianDude is lying.
The Italian Consulate's own words:
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"In order to enable this office to properly assess your eligibility for Italian citizenshipjure sanguinis, it is advisable that the applicant submit the documentation as described in the following instructions."
False. HistorianDude is wrong, again. For example, one must APPLY for Italian citizenship and provide substantial documentation that they are even eligible.
This is a lie.
One must apply to have pre-existing citizenship recognized, just as the form says in its very title. This is identical to what Barack Obama would have to go through to have his UK citizenship recognized. Complete with the same sort of documentation.
But not to exclude natural born US citizens from the presidency.
SCOTUS has already defined NBC in Minor v. Happersett:
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"At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
Those born foreigncitizens,owing allegiance to a foreign sovereign/nation, are not NBCs.
What idiot would imagine that as part of getting your citizenship recognized there would not need to be an assessment of your eligibility?
It's not an application for recognition of an already existing citizenship. It's an application to have Italian officials determine one's "eligibility for Italian citizenship jure sanguinis" (direct quote).
SCOTUS has already defined NBC in Minor v. Happersett:[
Those born foreigncitizens,owing allegiance to a foreign sovereign/nation, are not NBCs.
Wrong.
SCOTUS refused to define NBC in Minor... not that it had any reason to since it was not even a citizenship case.
SCOTUS defined NBC in Wong Kim Ark:
Those born on US soil who are not the children of foreign diplomats or alien armies in hostile occupation.
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