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Old 10-21-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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just so ya know




but we will leave 3 to 5,000 there for contingency, whatever that means.
The only reason Obama agreed to pull them out, according to the plan, was that Iraq refused to grant immunity to our soldiers and contractors past the end of the year.
Bush deserves the credit for ending this war.
Gee, you just deflated the Dem's balloon there.
But they'll just skip over your post like it never existed and believe what they are being told like good little sheeple.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It's because Obama did it, not some lame "R".
Did you miss my post? Bush put this deadline in place, as usual, Obama is just following thru. No skills required.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Gee, you just deflated the Dem's balloon there.
But they'll just skip over your post like it never existed and believe what they are being told like good little sheeple.
LOL, I noticed that!
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Did you miss my post? Bush put this deadline in place, as usual, Obama is just following thru. No skills required.
As you guys have been saying since 12:05 PM Jan. 20, 2009, Bush is NOT the pres. Whatever "deadline" he established ended five minutes prior to that.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Wait for the next reports coming from the 100 non-combatant "advisors" in Uganda. Another little "clusterf**k"..... er, engagement you won't win.

Your willingness to jump into any country, regardless of rationale, is being used against you by these despotic regimes to lend legitimacy to their leadership and provide needed cannon fodder to protect themselves.

Hell; if they can get you folks to do the heavy lifting, why shed their own blood, right?

Your leaders fail to notice the lack of enthusiasm from European and Asian countries, even the damn Arabs have no stomach to get involved in these stifes and they're in their own back yard.

Get a load of Turkey going after the Kurds now, right inside Iraq no less. it's just one round of endless tribal and religious strife after another over there and we keep the pot boiling with aiding and abetting these clowns.

As a Canadian I'll simply say; after watching the goings on in the Mid East for decades, the entire region is not worth one of our dead boys or girls from weazle-**** creek Alberta or one of your farm boys from Kansas!

Between our two country's we've invested over 5000 young lives in that ****-hole part of the world, and for what, so they can all be devotees of a cult worship that subjugates women and returns them further back in the stone age than they were to begin with.

War on terrorism my butthole! You can't fight a conventional war against any terrorist worthy of the name. For every one you kill there's another 6 with Ak's and cel-phones to take his place.

Bring 'em home and keep 'em home. Let those f**knuts drown in a cesspool of their own making.
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Bring our troops home from Iraq, Afganistan, and now Uganda. Quit doing stupid crap like slaughtering the legitimate military of a country just because we don't like the leader. There is no one and nothing in these places worth the life of an American (or Canadian) serviceman or woman. Quit trying to force democracy on those that are happy to live in a 13th century theocracy and mind our own business. Ensure that the message is we don't care what you do within your own borders.

As far as terrorism, make it clear to other countries, that support of a terrorist attack on US soil, or the providing of arms or materials to those involved in such an attack, is an act of war and will result in your capitol city being turned into molten glass. Give these countries a reason to control the garbage within their borders. We have no reason to waste American lives to fight a battle on the ground.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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As you guys have been saying since 12:05 PM Jan. 20, 2009, Bush is NOT the pres. Whatever "deadline" he established ended five minutes prior to that.
Signed documents don't expire like that.

It's Bush's fault until it's not ? Pick and choose ..what a hoot.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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Al-qaeda is financially broke and was on the ropes before Osama`s death. Killing him was the knockout punch. Iraq was just a mistake.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Hey, KUchief25, you certainly PULLED OUT of this discussion after starting it. Not even one single response or comment. So, you DO recognize lost causes? Funny, you missed the Iraq one.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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As you guys have been saying since 12:05 PM Jan. 20, 2009, Bush is NOT the pres. Whatever "deadline" he established ended five minutes prior to that.
The 2008 Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) (PDF) signed by the Bush administration and approved by Iraqi Prime Minsiter Nouri al-Maliki’s government says explicitly:
All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.
When the framework was signed, in fact, many critics wondered if Bush, in his last year in office, was tying the hands of a future administration to decide the course of the Iraq war on its own. But for all the American objections, the 2008 Bush-Maliki agreement did have something going for it that Cain also seems to ignore: that the Iraqi parliament agreed to it.

from one of your favorite websites
Herman Cain Blames Obama For Bush's Iraq Withdrawal Deadline | ThinkProgress
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Not once in his little announcement did he mention victory in Iraq. Yet another snub to the brave men and women who have fought over there. Shame on this president. He does not deserve to hold office.
"Victory" in Iraq? What does that mean?

Why did we go there? WMD? To fight Al Qaeda? Find OBL? Spread Democracy at gunpoint? Win hearts and minds? Get flowers and candy from the Iraqis? WHAT?

The only thing we accomplished by going there was get a lot of our people killed, and spend money we didn't have on a bunch of ungrateful, ethnocentric religious zealots who can't behave like adults.

My son fought over there. The brave men and women who fought over there can't wait to get the hell out.
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