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Old 10-26-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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A former student of math Teacher Jim Whitney - Joplin High, Joplin MO - posted an article on his facebook page about the recent suicide of a gay 15 year old with the comment "Enough is enough, this hatred has to go." Mr. Whitney promptly chimed in with the statement "moral of the story, don't be gay."

When asked by another facebooker "How many more kids have to kill themselves before everyone realizes that this is an actual issue?," Witney responded by saying "11-13 ought to do it. Somewhere in that vicinity."

I've been to the former student's facebook page as well as Mr. Whitney's. The former student is a recent graduate with more than 100 facebook friends, many of whom are current students at Joplin High. Mr Whitney Mr Whitney has more than 700 facebook friends, many who appear to be current students at Joplin High.

Does a public high school teacher going to a place where teenagers (including many student at his school) "hang out" and making anti-gay comments such as these fall under free speech, or is it unacceptable, fireable harassment and bullying?


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Old 10-26-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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It should be up to the principal of the school and the local school board to decide if his statements warrant his firing. But at the very least, I think it's poor judgment on his part to 'hang out' with students and make snide remarks about gays or someone who has committed suicide.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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It should be up to the principal of the school and the local school board to decide if his statements warrant his firing. But at the very least, I think it's poor judgment on his part to 'hang out' with students and make snide remarks about gays or someone who has committed suicide.
If you were in charge, what would you do? Would public comments to teenagers that basically call for a dozen more gay teens to kill themselves in order to drive home some moral message of what it means to be gay be something you'd tolerate from your teachers?
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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If you were in charge, what would you do? Would public comments to teenagers that basically call for a dozen more gay teens to kill themselves in order to drive home some moral message of what it means to be gay be something you'd tolerate from your teachers?
Me? Absolutely not. I wouldn't just let it happen. I'd call him into my office and say, "What the f*ck are you doing?" And then I'd send an announcement to all of the teachers in the school or the district, and tell them that 'hanging out' with the kids on Facebook is a no-no.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Tennessee Delta
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Me? Absolutely not. I wouldn't just let it happen. I'd call him into my office and say, "What the f*ck are you doing?" And then I'd send an announcement to all of the teachers in the school or the district, and tell them that 'hanging out' with the kids on Facebook is a no-no.
I think the student is out of school already. Missouri passed a law recently that made it illegal for current students and teachers to be friends on social media.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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Pause.

Breathe.

The teacher has told the student that those comments were not his, that someone else using his account made those statements. The student has a long-standing relationship with the teacher, and believes that the teacher did not make the offensive comments, that it's not in character or in the teacher's posting style.

The school district is investigating the matter.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:21 AM
 
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Pause.

Breathe.

The teacher has told the student that those comments were not his, that someone else using his account made those statements. The student has a long-standing relationship with the teacher, and believes that the teacher did not make the offensive comments, that it's not in character or in the teacher's posting style.

The school district is investigating the matter.

Facebook accounts get hacked all the time...that's unfortunate.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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I think the student is out of school already. Missouri passed a law recently that made it illegal for current students and teachers to be friends on social media.
LOL

Unconstitiutional as hell.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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His first statement was ok his 2nd crossed the line he'll be looking for a new job soon assuming union rules don't prevent him from being disciplined.

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A former student of math Teacher Jim Whitney - Joplin High, Joplin MO - posted an article on his facebook page about the recent suicide of a gay 15 year old with the comment "Enough is enough, this hatred has to go." Mr. Whitney promptly chimed in with the statement "moral of the story, don't be gay."

When asked by another facebooker "How many more kids have to kill themselves before everyone realizes that this is an actual issue?," Witney responded by saying "11-13 ought to do it. Somewhere in that vicinity."

I've been to the former student's facebook page as well as Mr. Whitney's. The former student is a recent graduate with more than 100 facebook friends, many of whom are current students at Joplin High. Mr Whitney Mr Whitney has more than 700 facebook friends, many who appear to be current students at Joplin High.

Does a public high school teacher going to a place where teenagers (including many student at his school) "hang out" and making anti-gay comments such as these fall under free speech, or is it unacceptable, fireable harassment and bullying?


Joplin teacher


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Old 10-26-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Pause.

Breathe.

The teacher has told the student that those comments were not his, that someone else using his account made those statements. The student has a long-standing relationship with the teacher, and believes that the teacher did not make the offensive comments, that it's not in character or in the teacher's posting style.

The school district is investigating the matter.
Oops missed this post seems we have another gay thread fail.
Moving on.
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