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Old 10-28-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I am inclined to agree with you, save for the fact that tea partiers would often go to rallies with tons of weapons and no one complained about safety there. Clearly generators cannot be considered substantially more dangerous then firearms.

As a result I tend towards leaning to the side that they should be able to keep them.

firearms are only dangerous to 2 classes of people. criminals and politicians. lets not go there.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Agreed. Carrying a fifth of 151 rum is like carrying a molotov cocktail.......... but there's no law against it, and there's none against having a generator either.

The ACLU needs to get involved in this. Whether you agree with them or not, this is a clear violation of rights.

I won't bother to look but I'm willing to bet large sums of money that the law stipulates that the FD has the legal right to intervene if they consider conditions to be dangerous.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: NC
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People hooking up electrical connections that may or may not know what they're doing isn't safe. Storing fuel in a public park where questionable electrical connections are being made isn't safe. How would licensed individuals carrying firearms be more dangerous?
Who is to say those people know what they are doing. People do unsafe things with firearms all the time. People with guns may or may not know how to store them safely, they may or may not know how to maintain them properly to reduce the risk of accidental discharge. Anyone who has driven a car should know that having a license to do something does not guarantee safety, or insure something is not dangerous.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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You're willing to put property and lives at risk because of what you like to think? If the NY authorities were so cavalier, they could and should be sued and prosecuted in the event of a tragedy.

There is nothing legal about setting up camp on public property that does not have the facilities to support a safe and hygienic environment.

Why do Occupy protesters and their supporters so often make arguments that one would expect from a sullen, clueless, entitled teenager?

I guess you did not read the article. the property is not public property, but private with public use, but private none the less.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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You're making a big assumption that everyone there working a generator knows what they are doing. Bad assumption.

Your so right, pretty big assumptions coming from the crowd i have seen. Doubt that every one there knows properly how to work a generator. I doubt that everyone there does. The city has to protect themselves too.

I have seen some real clueless people from there speak, and i did not know what the hek they were talking about, they were talking in circles.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Agreed. Carrying a fifth of 151 rum is like carrying a molotov cocktail.......... but there's no law against it, and there's none against having a generator either.

The ACLU needs to get involved in this. Whether you agree with them or not, this is a clear violation of rights.
They are not on their own property. Violation of rights ? That's city and private property so they have no rights there.

They don't even have permits.

It's not safe.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: NC
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firearms are only dangerous to 2 classes of people. criminals and politicians. lets not go there.
You cannot honestly believe firearms are less dangerous then generators.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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I am inclined to agree with you, save for the fact that tea partiers would often go to rallies with tons of weapons and no one complained about safety there.
Do you have any actual data to support such a claim? I've never heard that before, and I'm pretty well informed. Could you provide your source?
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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You cannot honestly believe firearms are less dangerous then generators.
I can believe that you're putting up a straw man to justify the unjustifiable. We, the grown-ups in this nation have to be responsible for those who can't or won't. You'll have to learn to deal with it.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: NC
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Do you have any actual data to support such a claim? I've never heard that before, and I'm pretty well informed. Could you provide your source?
Gun-toting Tea Party activists rally in Montana | Reuters

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