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Old 10-29-2011, 11:09 PM
 
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:23 PM
 
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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Bill O'Reilly: Video Center - Video Of The Day - Businesswoman assails "Occupy" bums


I'm not a fan of ex-CEO's getting multi-million dollar bonuses for failure
I don't know what is more laughable your first or second statement
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:00 AM
 
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Most of the ones I've run across have jobs that they go to. Lazy bums (not). Got greverences? yes they do.

Well yes and no. It is likely that the vast majority of problems are being caused by, well, "professional homeless" people who have taken advantage of the situation and joined in for personal benefit (e.g. food etc) and not for any cause greater then themselves. To me, a professional homeless person is someone who COULD pay for housing (either with money they already have or by earning it if they don't already have it) but CHOOSE not to do so. They CHOOSE to do so because they have learned that they can successfully get what they need by leeching off other people and organizations. They are opportunists who do not hesitate to take what they can, where they can.

This is the same sort of problem organizations like ACORN have when they hire people to register voters - leeches move in to make a fast buck, and the leeches don't even think past the cash they are going to be paid at the end of the night or week, so they don't hesitate to turn in fraudulent forms that will be thrown out later.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:17 AM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I suspect that the protesters will diminish greatly, if not disappear, as the weather starts turning colder and the first snows start to fall in the bigger northern cities.

To be fair, the Occupy Philadelphia group has been confined to Dilworth Plaza, by the City Hall and have been rather orderly. The area, even with the pup-tents and booths has been pretty clean ... and no there are no rats or feces, sanitation and meal service has been worked out in a reasonable manner. There is even a cyber and cell-phone charging station set up.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:19 AM
 
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(video omitted)

It's a little more subtle than that.

If you scratch these people - and millions of others - they want to work at a "good" job, a "fulfilling" job, a "meaningful" (and remunerative) job.

They don't already have these jobs because (usually) they are not qualified and are unwilling to pay the heavy dues required to qualify, or (occasionally) they were rendered redundant (surplus labor) in a shrinking sector. Sometimes they need training they can't afford or experience they can't get.

They often went to college believing the hype that a degree would magically lead to money and a fulfilling life. The economy changed and they did not adapt. Money magazine recognized the changing economy as early as 1991, and probably earlier than that - I recognized Money's recognition in 1991.

So you could say they want to work, except they are just insufferably picky about the work they are willing to take.

If they are like the hippies who preceded them, in 10 years they will capitulate and sell themselves out to the corporate world to make a living.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:31 AM
 
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Like you three, I also feel for the poor woman in the video, out there trying to run a small business and earn her own way only to have it destroyed by those that have absolutely nothing to contribute to our society.
Destroyed? Without terra firma, she has no business. She has no nation worthy of defense. If she had a brain in her head she'd recognize that the 1% who killed her customers are her enemy. Not OWS.

Someday when the Amish are paying their exhaustive rates of property taxes to Chinese real estate moguls, you might remember this conversation. Probably not, but maybe.
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:05 AM
 
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It's a little more subtle than that.

If you scratch these people - and millions of others - they want to work at a "good" job, a "fulfilling" job, a "meaningful" (and remunerative) job.

They don't already have these jobs because (usually) they are not qualified and are unwilling to pay the heavy dues required to qualify, or (occasionally) they were rendered redundant (surplus labor) in a shrinking sector. Sometimes they need training they can't afford or experience they can't get.

They often went to college believing the hype that a degree would magically lead to money and a fulfilling life. The economy changed and they did not adapt. Money magazine recognized the changing economy as early as 1991, and probably earlier than that - I recognized Money's recognition in 1991.

So you could say they want to work, except they are just insufferably picky about the work they are willing to take.

If they are like the hippies who preceded them, in 10 years they will capitulate and sell themselves out to the corporate world to make a living.
It looks like a lot of them have mental problems.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:42 AM
 
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The occupiers are great American heroes. I hug them daily and have given them food.
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Old 10-30-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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Gee, is this something different from the other dozen or so threads that exist on this topic?
Pretty much the same daily rightwing diatribe,hate everything,sky is falling,name calling rant.
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