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Poice can detain you up to 48 hours for failure to identify yourself. She must have been giving them a hard time and not telling them who she was. This has been the law for ever.
Agreed..Interestingly enough, I got stopped TWICE this year walking in the street, Because I "fit a description.' The first time they asked to see my arms for inspection of tattoos. I have none. Was not ID'd or searched. The second, a WEEK later to the day, was stopped in Sheepshead bay 1 block from the theater. That time I produced ID and my movie ticket stub with the time stamp on it. They left me be. Neither time did they call in my name to HQ either. I played the rule of thumb to be cooperative, And not make sudden moves or start becoming defensive. They were big scary guys but treated me with respect.
you need your ID to fricking step outside and go for a walk?
Thats a bit of a stretch.
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"Failure to Identify" is not failure to be able to produce identification documents (except when driving). It refers to refusing to identify yourself when asked by an officer, such as refusing to give your name and telling the cop to eff off, or purposely giving misleading information/documentation. The woman in this story was willing and able to identify herself. The arresting officer will likely face disciplinary action and the police force may be sued. Contrast this with 1939 Berlin.
We really dont know from the article that the woman was cooperative. She was willing to go get her ID, but they didnt go into her behavior or if she gave her name or any info. The article did allude the suggestion that she may have call the officer names and they were in the park at 3am.
What if she had been a criminal. How does it look. No ID, in the park that late at night. Then if she were being disagreeable to the officer, I can see how this situation may have escalated to this point.
We really dont know from the article that the woman was cooperative. She was willing to go get her ID, but they didnt go into her behavior or if she gave her name or any info. The article did allude the suggestion that she may have call the officer names and they were in the park at 3am.
What if she had been a criminal. How does it look. No ID, in the park that late at night. Then if she were being disagreeable to the officer, I can see how this situation may have escalated to this point.
SHE SPENT 36 HOURS IN JAIL!!!!!! FOR WHAT?!!! If a cop can't deal with a smart mouthed student then they shouldn't be a cop.
you need your ID to fricking step outside and go for a walk?
This is a bogus story. Not in NY.
How do I know? I was using a friend's truck with an expired inspection sticker (didn't realize it was expired). I was stopped at a toll booth in NYC. I had left my wallet at home, and had no license.
I gave them my name, address, and dob. Not only did I get let go with just a ticket for the inspection sticker, but they were NICE about it.
Why? Because I DO in fact respect police officers. Especially NYPD. They are the hardest working cops in the world, (a few exceptions) and get little thanks for the job they do. That was probably evident to the two PO's I was talking to.
I agree with another poster here. She probably went into a tirade about Berlin, the US is a free country, blah blah, and got spanked for it.
A lot of laws are still on the books. Cops are free to enforce them, or not enforce them. You make their lives hard, and they'll make your life hard. Seems fair to me.
So, there is the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations Officers run into.
This lady in the story complains and sues. I don't know the whole story. I was not there and neither was the reporter.
OK. So now, a Cop takes the word of someone they had Probably Cause to stop and ask someone for their ID. The Cop lets them go on their word of who they are (no ID shown). 1 Hour later, that person is arrested for killing someone and the news takes over with the background of that person is wanted in 2 other Murders.
Here comes the public with "Why didn't the Cop arrest them when they stopped them earlier?!"
Here comes the Murdered persons family with a lawsuit of their own on the Dept. and possibly the Officer.
So, now which way do you want it to be?
Personally, if a Officer has PC on me to show identification, no problem. I will show it.
When a cop goes out of his way to ridicule the woman once behind bars ... I think it is time for a vacancy in the police force. When she is escorted with someone that can produce an ID... give me a break. Time for a new look at the reign we allow the police to have.
I remember in 1977 the first time that I was stationed in Virginia, I was told that they had laws against being a 'vagrant'. You could be charged with vagrancy; if you were not a local, if you failed to have a photo ID, and if you did not have a minimum amount of cash in your pocket. So we were encouraged to always carry that much cash [I think it was like $50].
During the same period was when we were told that law enforcement would actively pursue any sailors on the beach, so we should be very careful and try to avoid contact with law Enforcement. It was not until a later tour there, in 1982, that I was arrested for being on a beach. One night in jail and the judge 'awarded' me a $100 fine the next morning.
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