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Old 11-04-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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Who the **** are we to say who can or cant have nuclear power. If they bombed anyone we would bomb them ten fold since we have atleast 5000 warheads stashed all over the place. No country is that stupid.

Just another lame excuse to get control of another oil rich country. Pretty much a modern crusades.
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Israel is sabre rattling (that link from 2009 proves it). The UK is unlikely to attack or invade Iran without the US (that Guardian article says the UK, while the Daily Mail says UK & US; shoddy journalism) ,and Obama has no intentions on attacking Iran in the run up of the 2012 elections. Iran is a much larger country with much closer links to China and Russia, it would be far too risky, and Israel will not do anything to Iran without the support of the US. The world is experiencing enough problems right now, we don't need another one and I think our politicians realise this, especially in a world where all our economies are so closely linked with one another, it just isn't worth it and would do far more bad then good.
I don't take issue with anything you just said. My question is, why would anybody attack Iran - what have they done to warrant an attack?
I expect to hear, well they threatened big Satan and little Satan, so what if they did? Talk is just talk. We carry a big stick. Ackmadinnerjacket is not a fool.
They might get a nuclear bomb, so what if they did. They have as much right as any other nation to defend themselves. I believe they need a deterent to keep us from attacking them. We anger them by occupation, let's quit occupying and forcing regime changes upon sovereign countries. Let's take care of our own yard. Defend this nation, defend our borders. Let other nations defend their own.
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I do not think it is good for any more countries than already has to have nuclear weapons. Especially a region as volitile and unstable as Mideastern nations such as Iran.

Disagree with me all you want, I respect that. The United States is the only country to have used a nuclear warhed, so I feel there is a level of hypocrisy here. I sympathize with the leftist viewpoint, but I disagree with it. No more nations need to have nuclear capabilities, especially Iran. It would serve no one any good if they do.
Yes it would, it would serve Iran. It would deter any impending attacks, which from the sound of it, they could us a detterent. That is a nation with a lot of oil, that the U.S. and Euro would love to have control of.
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Who the **** are we to say who can or cant have nuclear power. If they bombed anyone we would bomb them ten fold since we have atleast 5000 warheads stashed all over the place. No country is that stupid.

Just another lame excuse to get control of another oil rich country. Pretty much a modern crusades.
No country may be that stupid, but think about it...Muslims are quite willing to die for Allah, so it just takes one stupid Muslim with his finger on the button.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7A400T20111105

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Old 11-04-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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No country may be that stupid, but think about it...Muslims are quite willing to die for Allah, so it just take one stupid Muslim with his finger on the button.

U.S., Israel talk tough ahead of Iran nuclear report | Reuters
OMG this is insane. Stop provoking Iran. They hate us because we occupy - get the hell out and leave these people be.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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You do know that the U.S. was solidly AGAINST getting involved in WWII, even after it had been going strong for a couple years don't you?

It took a sneak attack on Pearl to get your country motivated to get involved beyond furnishing some materials up to that point.

That's the myth, yes. Meanwhile, some our richest and most evil financiers were loaning money to the Nazis with one company and shipping war supplies to England with another and we were trying to cut off Japanese production by stopping scrap metal shipments to them and trying to sabotage Japanese efforts to acquire and produce oil in SE Asia.

Wars are fought in many ways, not just with guns and bombs.

We are essentially at war with Iran right now; Stuxnet was our creation and we fomented the "Arab Spring" to destabilize Mideastern countries who could ally with Iran when the country is attacked, and even tried to destabilize Iran itself (which failed).

WW3 is not the ideal plan and if the Man can get around it they surely will, but it's looking less likely to me as things progress.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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This is excellent news, hopefully the terrorists running Iran will be destroyed as well as their nuclear weapons program. This might also end the terrorist groups hamas and hezbollah, which would also be welcomed alongside the ending of the Syrian regime.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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If Israel decides to attack Iran, the US and myself actually will be right there behind them. Iran should never have posession of a nuke, period. And their leadership needs to be assassinated.
This is absolutely correct.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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This is excellent news, hopefully the terrorists running Iran will be destroyed as well as their nuclear weapons program. This might also end the terrorist groups hamas and hezbollah, which would also be welcomed alongside the ending of the Syrian regime.
You are so wrong to encourage this country into yet another war. Do you have any idea what we have done to the beautiful country of Libya? Plus killing in the neighborhood of 100,000 people.


The Libya I Once Knew

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Moreover, the Libyan leader also played a role in the formation of the African Union (AU). The main coordinator of the war against Libya, Hillary Clinton went to Africa openly preaching the murder of Muammar Gaddafi. Unsuccessful, she began recruiting mercenaries. By they way, these mercenaries, including Colombia's death squads, were the ones fighting in Libya as rebels. And they were not decimated thanks to the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization (NATO) and the USA which protected them by air power. If you want, research about when Gaddafi nationalized the oil companies and banks. The Western media referred to him as 'the Arabic Che Guevara'.
Before being raped by the mercenaries under the command of NATO and U.S. terrorist, Libya had the highest rate of human development in Africa, and even higher than Brazil.
What few people know: in 2007 he inaugurated the largest irrigation system in the world. He transformed the desert (95% of Libya) into food-producing farms. As soon as he took power in Libya, any Libyan who wanted to produce food received land, equipment, seeds and a $50,000 bonus to survive until harvest. Agrarian Reform was completed and unrestricted.
He also pushed for the creation of the United States of Africa (USA) to rival the U.S.A and EU. He fought for an Africa united: "We want African troops to defend Africa. We want a single currency. We want one African passport." Unfortunately forgot the Atomic Bomb. And paid for it. Those nations intending to empower themselves too had better think about it.
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