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One last chance before you are put on ignore for being irrelevant. How is Germany a small pond. That actually does not even make sense. Please explain?
how about instead of spending tax payer money to subsidize our industries, we do something silly like remove a lot of the regulations on our industries so they can be competitive on the world stage. understand that the more money our government spends, the more debt we are going to pile up, and the closer to defaulting on the debt we get.
chinas government pretty much owns the industry there, and pays a pittance in wages, and has few regulations on business. germany has high taxes on their citizens, and i presume substantial tariffs on goods coming into germany, making locally made goods less expensive. but even germany is having fiscal issues as well, and they may need to cut back on those subsidies to private businesses.
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how about instead of spending tax payer money to subsidize our industries, we do something silly like remove a lot of the regulations on our industries so they can be competitive on the world stage. understand that the more money our government spends, the more debt we are going to pile up, and the closer to defaulting on the debt we get.
chinas government pretty much owns the industry there, and pays a pittance in wages, and has few regulations on business. germany has high taxes on their citizens, and i presume substantial tariffs on goods coming into germany, making locally made goods less expensive. but even germany is having fiscal issues as well, and they may need to cut back on those subsidies to private businesses.
If my mind wasn't totally fried right now, then yeah, something along these lines.
how about instead of spending tax payer money to subsidize our industries, we do something silly like remove a lot of the regulations on our industries so they can be competitive on the world stage. understand that the more money our government spends, the more debt we are going to pile up, and the closer to defaulting on the debt we get.
chinas government pretty much owns the industry there, and pays a pittance in wages, and has few regulations on business. germany has high taxes on their citizens, and i presume substantial tariffs on goods coming into germany, making locally made goods less expensive. but even germany is having fiscal issues as well, and they may need to cut back on those subsidies to private businesses.
You can't compete in a global market if the other countries are both placing tariff's on imports and subsidizing their exports without doing the same. Surely even you can understand that.
You can't compete in a global market if the other countries are both placing tariff's on imports and subsidizing their exports without doing the same. Surely even you can understand that.
yes we can, in fact we used to do just that years ago. there are many ways to compete on the world stage without subsidies, and without high tariffs.
For those of you who believe it is not. Please explain how China and Germany have higher exports than we do. China has slave $100 a month labor. Germany is far more skilled and inventive than us at this point.
A case can be made that China is just a larger country; however, that argument does not work for Germany. No, China pollutes, uses polluted ingredients and makes things with slave labor. Germany is just not as F'd up with the teacher's union like we have. They actually educate their students.
The fact is that China is industry is almost completely owned by the govt. and in Germany industry is heavily subsidized by the govt. China is a human rights violator supreme. Germany has a lot more eduated talent than us, plain and simple.
I am not suggesting the subsidize the banking industry; however, I see nothing wrong with subsidizing industry that increases jobs by helping us to compete globally with manufacturing.
From the market. Government should stay away as much as possible from the private sector where ALL THE MONEY THAT IS TAXED COMES FROM. The US government has lots of power with their elites, but they are ALL DEPENDENTS of the private sector.
The government should not expand picking winners and losers in businesses.
They should subsidize some farms (since eating is crucia) and they should help maybe a little in energy (since we need it) mostly by letting it expand. We have no new oil refineries in about forty years in this country.
Hope this helps you.
yes we can, in fact we used to do just that years ago. there are many ways to compete on the world stage without subsidies, and without high tariffs.
It is really time to start thinking for yourself instead of repeating lies that you may have heard.
Sure we competed years ago, but the global landscape has changed a great deal since then. In the 50's we were a powerhouse, but a lot has changed since then. We set Germany up with the Marshall plan to be an economic powerhouse who uses both tariffs and subsidies, We set Japan up to be an economic powerhouse. Both India and China became global economic powers who use in many cases fully subsidize their industries. South Korea is now an effective player on the global market...thanks to us.
The global competition has changed and we lagged behind. It is time to invest in industry and protect growing industries from dumping and tariffs by other countries.
It is really time to start thinking for yourself instead of repeating lies that you may have heard.
Sure we competed years ago, but the global landscape has changed a great deal since then. In the 50's we were a powerhouse, but a lot has changed since then. We set Germany up with the Marshall plan to be an economic powerhouse who uses both tariffs and subsidies, We set Japan up to be an economic powerhouse. Both India and China became global economic powers who use in many cases fully subsidize their industries. South Korea is now an effective player on the global market...thanks to us.
The global competition has changed and we lagged behind. It is time to invest in industry and protect growing industries from dumping and tariffs by other countries.
What is government's competence in "investing in industry?"
What is government's competence in "investing in industry?"
You never answered the question as to how Germany is a small pond. still waiting for that one. Answer my question, and then I will be happy to answer yours.
Because these inferior countries are beating us on the world stage in the exportation of goods.
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