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"But the Michigan legislature is doing its best to make me hang my head in shame. On Wednesday, the Republican-controlled state senate passed an anti-bullying bill that manages to protect school bullies instead of those they victimize. It accomplishes this impressive feat by allowing students, teachers, and other school employees to claim that “a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction” justifies their harassment."
"This year, Republicans only agreed to consider an anti-bullying measure that did not require school districts to report bullying incidents, did not include any provisions for enforcement or teacher training, and did not hold administrators accountable if they fail to act. And they fought back Democratic attempts to enumerate particular types of students who are prone to being bullied, such as religious and racial minorities, and gay students. But it was the addition of special protections for religiously-motivated bullying that led all 11 Democratic senators to vote against the legislation they had long championed."
Those aren't facts. Those are opinions. Show me a bill that says it's OK to bully for religious reasons. Complaints from Democratic legislators about what might happen are opinions... not facts.
Don't have time to read through this whole thread. But I have to wonder if the Bill actually protects religious students who "bully" gay students or, in actuality, protects the religious students right to verbalize their belief that homosexuality is wrong? Huge difference. I suspect its the latter.
How about a student that believes that blacks shouldn't attend his school because he believes them to be inferior. Or that girls don't need to be educated because it is his belief that they belong in the home serving men. A public school is not a place for anyone's religious beliefs.
Those aren't facts. Those are opinions. Show me a bill that says it's OK to bully for religious reasons. Complaints from Democratic legislators about what might happen are opinions... not facts.
The legislation "does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction" of a student or school employee.
Apparently it's ok to bully people if there's a religious reason. Are these people setting society back?
Ya know, I see a lot of bullying going on today, and some of it is coming from the White House, but most certainly most of it comes from leftists who disagree with Republicans on most everything. It comes from "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky.
Why should I be concerned about your particular beef?
The "Occupiers" are bullying everybody, and ruining lives in the process.
Your little insignificant peeve pales when compared with these.
How about a student that believes that blacks shouldn't attend his school because he believes them to be inferior. Or that girls don't need to be educated because it is his belief that they belong in the home serving men. A public school is not a place for anyone's religious beliefs.
What? a) That a student can't believe or even verbalize those words? Or b) that a student can't beat the cr*p out of a black student or a female student based on those beliefs?
I don't have a problem with "a." But "b" should definitely not be allowed.
Don't have time to read through this whole thread. But I have to wonder if the Bill actually protects religious students who "bully" gay students or, in actuality, protects the religious students right to verbalize their belief that homosexuality is wrong? Huge difference. I suspect its the latter.
The language in the bill that is at issue basically allows those who bully an harass others from escaping punishment for bullying if they claim they did so for religious reasons. Someone's religious beliefs should not give them the ability to bully and harass others and escape punishment for it, this bill does that.
Also, I was unaware she was bullied. Maybe you could provide an example?
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She was called out for her remarks. Didn't you know that having to logically explain your viewpoints is the very definition of persecution!
She was sent death threats for her views, and still receives them from "tolerant" progressives who are angry that she doesn't think like they do. Yes, death threats are a form of bullying. It's also a criminal act.
Those aren't facts. Those are opinions. Show me a bill that says it's OK to bully for religious reasons. Complaints from Democratic legislators about what might happen are opinions... not facts.
The bill does not say its "OK" however, what the bill does do is allow those who are bullying someone to pull the religious card and get away with bullying someone for that reason without repercussions.
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