Former Penn State Coach Arrested for Sexually Abusing Young Boys (illegal, leader)
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It is disgusting and it should be viewed on the same scale as the Satanic Church scandal.
No, it shouldn't. This was a case involving one person who was accused of acting inappropriately; the Catholic church involved multiple incidents, and there was an institutional practice of keeping the scandals within the confines of Canon law.
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It also proves might point, that people are basically "not good."
It proves nothing of the sort. What it proves is that people have a hard time confronting someone they trust and admire about a potentially ugly truth.
What they did was wrong, and people suffered severely for it -- no doubt about that. But the bad judgment of these individuals neither proves nor disproves the goodness of humanity. It just shows how hard it is for people to confront the ugly truth about people they think they know.
Joe Paterno probably made a terrible decision not to go further with this information, but that doesn't mean that he's not a good person. People can be good and they can make terrible decisions, which turn out to be costly.
No, it shouldn't. This was a case involving one person who was accused of acting inappropriately; the Catholic church involved multiple incidents, and there was an institutional practice of keeping the scandals within the confines of Canon law.
It proves nothing of the sort. What it proves is that people have a hard time confronting someone they trust and admire about a potentially ugly truth.
What they did was wrong, and people suffered severely for it -- no doubt about that. But the bad judgment of these individuals neither proves nor disproves the goodness of humanity. It just shows how hard it is for people to confront the ugly truth about people they think they know.
Joe Paterno probably made a terrible decision not to go further with this information, but that doesn't mean that he's not a good person. People can be good and they can make terrible decisions, which turn out to be costly.
No way , Here you have a ONCE legend of the Grid Iron fall on his face.
There is not a chance in He** A great coach who makes game time decisions did not fully understand the consequences.
Or he did know the consequences and he rolled the dice.
I agree with alot the posters on many points.
It is just a story ripped right out of the WHAT book of life.
Very sad for the victims
Sad for the lives this story is going to touch.
Its also going to rip to shreds Joe Paterno for the whole career at PSU.
A gem of a program at one time and a leader who wanted to much to leave at the top.
All crumbled.
And to think of all the good this man coach did for Youth.
Its truly stranger than fiction.
I don't understand: why were those boys on a college campus?
Because they were participants of Sandusky's charity for at-risk boys called "Second Mile". He allegedly used the charity as a way to be in contact with young boys.
Lots of cites to professional peer-reviewed journals here.
Here you go:
“The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual." Groth, A. N., & Gary, T. S. (1982). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and pedophilia: Sexual offenses against children and adult sexual orientation.
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"Homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia are not synonymous. In fact, it may be that these two orientations are mutually exclusive, the reason being that the homosexual male is sexually attracted to masculine qualities whereas the heterosexual male is sexually attracted to feminine characteristics, and the sexually immature child’s qualities are more feminine than masculine. . . . The child offender who is attracted to and engaged in adult sexual relationships is heterosexual. It appears, therefore, that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater sexual risk to underage children than does the adult homosexual male." A. Nicholas Groth, William F. Hobson, and Thomas S. Gary, “The Child Molester: Clinical Observations,” in Social Work and Child Sexual Abuse, eds. Jon R. Conte and David A. Shore (New York: Haworth Press, 1982), p.136.
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"Amongst the heterosexuals, the commonest remarks concerning attractive features of the victims, were that the young boys did not have any body hair and that their bodies were soft and smooth." Marshal, W.L.; Barbaree, H.E.; Butt, Jennifer. “Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual preferences.”
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“Homosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded to female children” Journal of Sex Research -Freund, Kurt; Watson, Robin J.; Rienzo, Douglas. “Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and the erotic age preference.” Journal of Sex Research 26, no. 1 (1989): 107-117
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“..a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner is 100 times greater than by someone who might be identified as a homosexual." (Carole Jenny et al., Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?; 94 Pediatrics 41; July 1994)
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“The adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male” National Institutes of Health – PubMed (Groth and Birnbaum, “Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons.”)
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“The belief that homosexuals are particularly attracted to children is completely unsupported by our data.” National Institutes of Health – PubMed (Groth and Birnbaum, “Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons.”)
“A gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children.” Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality -(Stevenson, “Public Policy, Homosexuality and the Sexual Coercion of Children.”)
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The Abel and Harlow Child Molestation Prevention Study of over 4000 child molestors in the US also show that 97% of child molestors were religious and over 70% were married with children: Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute
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And here is a general article showing how some conservative religious anti-gay groups misrepresent and distort studies like those above to vilify homosexuals. Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
The "experts" are agenda driven liberals that want to promote the fantasy of homosexuals being somehow more virtuous than heterosexuals.
All you need to do is apply logic. If those men who are willingly turned on by young boy and adult female, then they are simply bisexuals with a pedophilic kink.
Uh no, not according to FBI profilers of sex-offenders. Or do you think are they "agenda driven liberals...blah blah..."??
This is BS made up by some gay professor to justify his thoughts/thesis.
If a male has sex with a male its a homosexual relation. If a man has sex with a kid, its rape.
Research on sex offenders has been going on for the past 50 or 60 years- by straight researchers like Kurt Freund and A. Nicholas Groth whose work is used as the basis of FBI profiling of sex-offenders.
But yes I agree that if a man has sex with a child, it is rape.
There is no accounting for sexual preference. That is why we need laws to protect childern. This guy had apparently achieved Godhood in his profession. That led to his certainty that he was not hurting anyone and was above the law anyway. He apparently believed nobody would tell on the coach. WRONG.
Research on sex offenders has been going on for the past 40 years or so- by straight researchers like Kurt Freund and A. Nicholas Groth whose work is used as the basis of FBI profiling of sex-offenders.
But yes I agree that if a man has sex with a child, it is rape.
Yes. Attraction to someone, is completely different than having power over someone.
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