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Old 11-08-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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obama has neither.
So right, obviously to those who wish to see the truth, Obama does have neither.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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I stubbed my toe this morning....it's all OBAMA'S FAULT!!
You stubbed your toe when you voted for obama, and that was your fault...!!
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Obviously, obama's appointee to the top job, and the buck stops at the top...no?
Again, please answer my initial question. If, as you claim, Obama is to be personally blamed because he is the Commander in Chief of the officer who mishandled the morgue then shouldn't he also be praised because he is ultimately the boss of the federal investigators who uncovered the mishandling, and the General who dismissed the offending officer?

You can't make one of those claims and not the other.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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The very people who are crying "personal responsibility" are the very ones who want to blame every little speck that is wrong in the nation on the current president. Not everything is his fault, there are people who hired and/or designated to do a job. Their job. It is their responsibility to see it through.
Discuss it with THEM.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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obama has zero respect for the military, dead or alive.
according to who?

He looks so awkward on military holidays.
according to who?
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Sadly, this is not isolated. There have been a significant number of instances where our deceased heros have been buried in the wrong graves as well.
Do you view this as a systemic disrespect for our military, from the CinC on down? I'm just making a comparative analogy to when the left accused the Abu Garab incidents as systemic of the Bush admin.
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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Do you view this as a systemic disrespect for our military, from the CinC on down? I'm just making a comparative analogy to when the left accused the Abu Garab incidents as systemic of the Bush admin.
Good point.

Was there a policy put in place by the Obama administration to that institutionalized the abuse of the remains of servicemen killed in the line of duty as opposed to let's say an institutional policy harshly treat detainees as was done during the Bush administration? Obviously the answer, to paraphrase Herman Cain, is your analogy is apples and hand grenades.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Remember the chain of command.....obama is the Commander in Chief, is he not? Or are republican Presidents the only ones who are responsible for everything?
Yes, we all remember Bush making his nightly trips to abu graib for the torture sessions, don't we? I seem to remember he was excoriated for it.

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Again, please answer my initial question. If, as you claim, Obama is to be personally blamed because he is the Commander in Chief of the officer who mishandled the morgue then shouldn't he also be praised because he is ultimately the boss of the federal investigators who uncovered the mishandling, and the General who dismissed the offending officer?

You can't make one of those claims and not the other.
Whistle blowers alerted the media to the mistreatment of war dead, NOT the obama administration.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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Missing body parts, cutting off arms...what else?

More incompetence from the worst mistake America has ever made.

Air Force mishandled remains of war dead - The Washington Post
You're way off base with this one.

I'm by no means an Obama supporter. The current administration cannot move on to their cushy futures in the private sector soon enough for me.

That said, based on the content of your linked article this was an Air Force screw up. A heavy workload combined with poor leadership appear to be the major contributors to the abuses.

Attempting to capitalize on these events for political gain is every bit as disrespectful to the fallen military personnel as was the corner cutting employed by the graves detail.

This is not a political matter. It's an issue of service members failing to extend proper respect for the remains of fellow service members. There are ample reasons for anger and indignation but those emotions should be directed at those responsible for the abuses.

It's truly shameful that you would attempt to politicize this.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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Yes, we all remember Bush making his nightly trips to abu graib for the torture sessions, don't we? I seem to remember he was excoriated for it.



Whistle blowers alerted the media to the mistreatment of war dead, NOT the obama administration.
Yeah, just what a thought, no answer. Just exploiting the suffering of others to create a cheap partisan talking point. For shame.
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