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Old 11-09-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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The intransigence over the debt ceiling enraged Republican stalwarts. George Voinovich, the former GOP senator from Ohio, likens his party's new guard to arsonists whose attitude is: "We're going to get what we want or the country can go to hell." Even an architect of the Bush tax cuts, economist Glenn Hubbard, tells Rolling Stone that there should have been a "revenue contribution" to the debt-ceiling deal, "structured to fall mainly on the well-to-do." Instead, the GOP strong-armed America into sacrificing $1 trillion in vital government services – including education, health care and defense – all to safeguard tax breaks for oil companies, yacht owners and hedge-fund managers. The party's leaders were triumphant: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell even bragged that America's creditworthiness had been a "hostage that's worth ransoming."


Read more: How the GOP Became the Party of the Rich | Politics News | Rolling Stone
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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the real question is why the liberals want to tax america to death
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: southern california
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i wish it were so. GOP would fail overnight if so.
but not so. vast quantities of lower class white voters, joe six pack, are loyal GOP.
the poor whites identify with the GOP, bek they know their worthless lazy leech of a son who has never worked, will make CEO in just a few more weeks when the economy turns around. the work our grandfathers did, we told our kids was not good enough for them. so we gave the trade jobs, their inheritance, to the 20 million illegal mexicans. btw next time you complain about illegal immigration, look out the window, at your illegal cutting your grass while your 35 year old unemployed son, takes a snooze on the couch.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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The intransigence over the debt ceiling enraged Republican stalwarts. George Voinovich, the former GOP senator from Ohio, likens his party's new guard to arsonists whose attitude is: "We're going to get what we want or the country can go to hell." Even an architect of the Bush tax cuts, economist Glenn Hubbard, tells Rolling Stone that there should have been a "revenue contribution" to the debt-ceiling deal, "structured to fall mainly on the well-to-do." Instead, the GOP strong-armed America into sacrificing $1 trillion in vital government services – including education, health care and defense – all to safeguard tax breaks for oil companies, yacht owners and hedge-fund managers. The party's leaders were triumphant: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell even bragged that America's creditworthiness had been a "hostage that's worth ransoming."


Read more: How the GOP Became the Party of the Rich | Politics News | Rolling Stone

I guess the converse message would be that the democratic party is the party of bums and beggars. Is this the case?
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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the real question is why the liberals want to tax america to death
Cite please. Last I checked they only wanted the very wealthy to pay more. Does the top 1% represent all of America? Maybe in their minds.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Cite please. Last I checked they only wanted the very wealthy to pay more. Does the top 1% represent all of America? Maybe in their minds.
Yes, hotair, with all of their programs to steal money out of one person's pocket to hand it over to another so that they can personally collect votes. They've been doing it for so long, and it only gets worse.

BOTH parties are screwing us. And it's really not 'both' parties. They are really just one party that has the same agenda that just looks like we are given a choice.

They are ALL corrupt as heck and are destroying our country.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Here
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Cite please. Last I checked they only wanted the very wealthy to pay more. Does the top 1% represent all of America? Maybe in their minds.
As long as it's not YOU paying more right?
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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i wish it were so. GOP would fail overnight if so.
but not so. vast quantities of lower class white voters, joe six pack, are loyal GOP.
the poor whites identify with the GOP, bek they know their worthless lazy leech of a son who has never worked, will make CEO in just a few more weeks when the economy turns around. the work our grandfathers did, we told our kids was not good enough for them. so we gave the trade jobs, their inheritance, to the 20 million illegal mexicans. btw next time you complain about illegal immigration, look out the window, at your illegal cutting your grass while your 35 year old unemployed son, takes a snooze on the couch.
i think that's close.

The Republican Party has successfully created a narrative , that everyone in their party seems to believe. that is:

a. The rich pay higher tax rates than the rest of us.
b. Cutting taxes for rich people will create jobs.

It is a war of facts, and both of these two points require some degree of research, and ability to interpret statistics, before you can understand that they are not true.

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is incompetent, mired in special interests like unions, feminists, and minorities, and is incapable of creating a coherent economic narrative that debunks this flawed Republican "story".
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Cite please. Last I checked they only wanted the very wealthy to pay more. Does the top 1% represent all of America? Maybe in their minds.
oh???

tell me what tax the liberals HAVENT pushed

the AMT was 'supposed' to be to tax the rich, now it hits the middleclass


the real question is why the libeerals want to DISCRIMINATE ...why not tax everyone at an equal rate.........are the liberals for EQUALITY or not???

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Old 11-09-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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Both parties cater to the rich. Democrats to one type of rich person and the Republicans to another. Both screw the American people.
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