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Old 11-09-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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Dear Herman,

As a media specialist a few words of free advice. Shut up.

You now claim that you knew that this issue would come out, you claim that your team was prepared for it so why in the hell did you first pretend that you didn't know anything about it?

Your first and last response should have been, "Yes there were allegations of sexual misconduct and we reached an equitable settlement with the individuals involved in which at no time did I admit to any wrong doing. It was an unfortunate situation but that was more than 10 years ago and we have all moved on and that is the last thing that I am going to say about that."

But no!

You proceeded to deny that there was a settlement, then you acknowledged that it wasn't a settlement but an agreement.

Then you started to denigrate the then anonymous accusers (whether they deserved it or not ain't the point).

Then you accused the "left wing media" but admitted that you had no proof.

Then you accused and demanded an apology from the Perry campaign, but then had to back down because you had no proof.

Then you falsely accused some former writer for Politico of being the son of one of your accusers.

Then you get caught on camera losing your cool with reporters, bad, bad, move. Folks who want to be president don't lose control of their emotions on camera!!!

Then you held this big set piece press conference where you repeated all the mistakes above.

SHUT UP!

It may have helped your fund raising for a while, but every day you open your mouth you pour gas on the fire!

STOP IT!

If you want to get your campaign back on track, SHUT UP about the women, their lawyers, or anything else about the issue.

JUST SHUT UP ALREADY!
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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I can agree with this assessment.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I can agree with this assessment.
Look, I want to beat the guy in 2012 but I want to beat him on his ideas not on his inability to manage his message.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The more Mr. Cain speaks the better we will comprehend his true character, personality and policies. Please. Mr. Cain, tell us more.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I agree, he needs to get the facts before he speaks out. Guess he is not like Clinton. He is not used to handling scandals, and is messing this up.

We can all look back with hindsight and say we'd have done it differently, but he can't shut up, he has cameras stuffed in his face and he needs a good relationship with the media to run for president. It's sort of a catch 22.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: California
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He has no choice but to address the accusations, shutting up would hurt him even worst, He needs to get it out in the open, force the accusers to a face off and hope for the best. He is most likely doomed.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Look, I want to beat the guy in 2012 but I want to beat him on his ideas not on his inability to manage his message.
If Cain was 0bama, the media would give him his privacy, and the story line would be "More baseless allegations from anonymous sources, attacking 0bama" and they would not have even run the first Politico story.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He has no choice but to address the accusations, shutting up would hurt him even worst, He needs to get it out in the open, force the accusers to a face off and hope for the best. He is most likely doomed.
Let them look stupid by claiming "he gestured me" oh, the shame of it all.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Dear Herman,

As a media specialist a few words of free advice. Shut up.

You now claim that you knew that this issue would come out, you claim that your team was prepared for it so why in the hell did you first pretend that you didn't know anything about it?

Your first and last response should have been, "Yes there were allegations of sexual misconduct and we reached an equitable settlement with the individuals involved in which at no time did I admit to any wrong doing. It was an unfortunate situation but that was more than 10 years ago and we have all moved on and that is the last thing that I am going to say about that."

But no!

You proceeded to deny that there was a settlement, then you acknowledged that it wasn't a settlement but an agreement.

Then you started to denigrate the then anonymous accusers (whether they deserved it or not ain't the point).

Then you accused the "left wing media" but admitted that you had no proof.

Then you accused and demanded an apology from the Perry campaign, but then had to back down because you had no proof.

Then you falsely accused some former writer for Politico of being the son of one of your accusers.

Then you get caught on camera losing your cool with reporters, bad, bad, move. Folks who want to be president don't lose control of their emotions on camera!!!

Then you held this big set piece press conference where you repeated all the mistakes above.

SHUT UP!

It may have helped your fund raising for a while, but every day you open your mouth you pour gas on the fire!

STOP IT!

If you want to get your campaign back on track, SHUT UP about the women, their lawyers, or anything else about the issue.

JUST SHUT UP ALREADY!
Scratch that, keep on talking Mr. Cain.

Signed,

President Obama supporters

P.S. Romney supporters cosign!
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:07 AM
 
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Isn't anyone else completely embarrassed by this display from someone who wants to be the PotUS?

We aren't talking about some reality show, or Jerry Springer. This is someone who wants to represent us to the world. Undignified and dishonorable is the least of the descriptions I can throw out there.
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