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I just revisited this forum after a couple months off, and it seemed to me that 80% of the threads are trying to pin all our problems on one group, usually with an opposing ideology.
For instance, Obama or Bush or Clinton or Greenspan or Bernanke or Wall Street or greedy minority buyers or Fannie Mae are responsible for the economic meltdown.
The deficit is the fault of the tax dodging 1%, greedy public employees, Bush's wars, Obama's socialist policies, etc. Too many tax cuts! No friggin way! It's too much government!
Crime is caused by immigrants and minorities, rightwing militia types, wimpy democratic policies, etc.
I think anyone with half a brain knows that most of these issues have more than one cause, and getting our house in order will take a lot more than one idea or pinning the blame on some other guy. It will take compromise and multifaceted thinking to save our asses. Why is scapegoating such a typical response?
It strikes me as pointless and intellectually lazy, but unfortunately, the primary style of political discussion these days.
Last edited by Fiddlehead; 11-09-2011 at 04:05 PM..
I just revisited this forum after a couple months off, and it seemed to me that 80% of the threads are trying to pin all our problems on one group, usually with an opposing ideology.
For instance, Obama or Bush or Clinton or Greenspan or Bernanke or Wall Street or greedy minority buyers or Fannie Mae are responsible for the economic meltdown.
The deficit is the fault of the tax dodging 1%, greedy public employees, Bush's wars, Obama's socialist policies, etc. Too many tax cuts! No friggin way! It's too much government!
Crime is caused by immigrants and minorities, rightwing militia types, wimpy democratic policies, etc.
I think anyone with half a brain knows that most of these issues have more than one cause, and getting our house in order will take a lot more than one idea or pinning the blame on some other guy. It will take compromise and multifaceted thinking to save our asses. Why is scapegoating such a typical response?
It strikes me as pointless and intellectually lazy, but unfortunately, the primary style of political discussion these days.
If you come back in 90 more days, you will find the same. I guess everyone needs someone to blame for all of the problems.
Well, it is here. This is a real den of extreme conservatism. These people skip over facts in favor of propaganda, are happy to display a thinly veiled hatred of people who aren't just like them (ethic minorities, the poor, homosexuals, etc.). Most of their posts are simply ludicrous. My favorite was one by Happy Texan demanding that all the disabled get jobs. Errm - The disabled who can work are mostly already doing so. Those members of the disabled community who are borderline candidates for employment don't get the jobs. With unemployment hovering at 9%, employers are going to hire the able-bodied. And some disabled just can't work. If I remember correctly, Happy Texan's solution was to kill them all. Poor H.T. - born at the wrong time in history. They'd have loved him in Germany 75 or so years ago.
I come here so I can keep tabs on what the extreme right is up to. Unsurprisingly, its usually no good.
Funny situation with the current state of economy.
Yes your going to have some who are going to blame the current President and admnistration.
Those who will blame the previous President and administration.
In all actuality, we got here one way, too much dang spending by both sides, along with everything else both sides have done wrong, too much too mention.
And the very sensible who come to realize that both sides are guilty.
Funny situation with the current state of economy.
Yes your going to have some who are going to blame the current President and admnistration.
Those who will blame the previous President and administration.
In all actuality, we got here one way, too much dang spending by both sides, along with everything else both sides have done wrong, too much too mention.
And the very sensible who come to realize that both sides are guilty.
I just dont see a reason to blame or have hope in a President, he has no real power. The majority of the House and the Senate are the ones with the power. To me, and I cant say 100% of all of them, are self serving crooks.
I just revisited this forum after a couple months off, and it seemed to me that 80% of the threads are trying to pin all our problems on one group, usually with an opposing ideology.
For instance, Obama or Bush or Clinton or Greenspan or Bernanke or Wall Street or greedy minority buyers or Fannie Mae are responsible for the economic meltdown.
The deficit is the fault of the tax dodging 1%, greedy public employees, Bush's wars, Obama's socialist policies, etc. Too many tax cuts! No friggin way! It's too much government!
Crime is caused by immigrants and minorities, rightwing militia types, wimpy democratic policies, etc.
I think anyone with half a brain knows that most of these issues have more than one cause, and getting our house in order will take a lot more than one idea or pinning the blame on some other guy. It will take compromise and multifaceted thinking to save our asses. Why is scapegoating such a typical response?
It strikes me as pointless and intellectually lazy, but unfortunately, the primary style of political discussion these days.
It's tough for Americans -- for most Westerners, actually --to handle more than two sides to a question. We are most comfortable with black-and-white, binary approaches to most issues. We also easily delude ourselves into thinking that mouthing off equals taking effective action.
Philosophical sublety is not our forte. Our way of life -- including its political aspects -- is much cruder and messier. It is either bitter or gloating, never bittersweet; it forces us to determine a winner and a loser, never compromise; it is all or nothing at all.
This approach served us well in the past, when we had powerful physical enemies, a nation to build, and a continent to work with. More and more, though, it is becoming apparent that our confrontational, give-no-quarter methodology is less well suited to the internal struggles in which we find ourselves, both individually and collectively.
The world is a better place thanks to America's willingness to fight for relatively clear (or at least recognizable) goals against external enemies whose ambitions expressed themselves in crude efforts at achieving authoritarian world dominance. It is less clear to the world, however, that America's increasingly inward-dwelling demons are capable of being overcome by its insistence on zero-sum, dichotomous struggles...
I have always loved this classic line from the comic strip, Pogo.
"We has met the enemy, and it's us."
No one in the USA wants to take one single ounce of responsibility for anything. It's just so stupid and I see clearly that it produces paralaysis in the entire country. The country is facing huge problems and exactly nothing is being done to solve anything.
When the depression hit, Hoover would do nothing and things just sprialed down and down. When FDR took over he instituted more legislation in 3 months than had been done for years. When he was asked if he thought these changes would work he said, "I really don't know but even if they don't, doing anything is better than doing nothing".
Just the fact that the people of the country see their leaders doing something to solve problems is a lot of times half the battle. It creates confidence and calms fears.
The present crop of leaders in Washington seem to be scraped of the bottom of the barrel. The incompetence and the bungling is like that in some banana republic somewhere. This is a complete nonpartisan rant. They are all a bunch of losers. Throw the bums out and get some real public servants. Don't expect things to get any better until you do.
Well, it is here. This is a real den of extreme conservatism. These people skip over facts in favor of propaganda, are happy to display a thinly veiled hatred of people who aren't just like them (ethic minorities, the poor, homosexuals, etc.). Most of their posts are simply ludicrous. My favorite was one by Happy Texan demanding that all the disabled get jobs. Errm - The disabled who can work are mostly already doing so. Those members of the disabled community who are borderline candidates for employment don't get the jobs. With unemployment hovering at 9%, employers are going to hire the able-bodied. And some disabled just can't work. If I remember correctly, Happy Texan's solution was to kill them all. Poor H.T. - born at the wrong time in history. They'd have loved him in Germany 75 or so years ago.
I come here so I can keep tabs on what the extreme right is up to. Unsurprisingly, its usually no good.
Of course, none of the lefties are doing anything that needs to be checked up on.
It's because this board is mostly a bunch of bored retirees upset and bitter that their kids don't visit as much because they're tired of hearing how the Nazi-ChiCom-Obama-George Soros-ACORN-illuminati cabal is destroying the world and putting flouride in the water supply.
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