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Old 11-17-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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As always with threads on this topic, where would all those Americans go? It's not that countries abroad are waiting for them with open arms

Check the world forum, there are lots of Americans asking for information on potential relocation targets abroad...

Despite its obvious flaws the US is still an interesting country as one can feel that people might turn things around once they are really tired of their mess. A feeling one does not necessarily get in my country, where people don't believe in the future, but prefer to accept the chronically troubled situation of their country as their fate instead.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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When I brought up the progressive utopia of North Korea and the impossibility of its citizens to freely travel you implied that your fate is similar to a North Korean.

Believe me sir, it isn't.
No, I didn't imply that. I didn't say a word about North Korea.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why would I want to leave America? Unlike my progressive friends I adore our Constitution and the protections from government overreach it affords me.
Why are you suggesting anyone would want to leave? I simply used your own strawman argument against you. I guess now you see how silly it was.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: North America
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No, I didn't imply that. I didn't say a word about North Korea.
No one said you said "North Korea".
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: North America
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Why are you suggesting anyone would want to leave? I simply used your own strawman argument against you. I guess now you see how silly it was.
No one said Americans want to leave America. I proved that people from progressive utopias wish to come to the United States.

You can call it "silly" all you want but actually it is true.

I noticed you choose not to explain why, however.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Being married is a game changer when it comes to insurance. I won't be getting married for another 5 or 6 years at the earliest. The fact that as a single 22 year old I was being cited $600 a month at the cheapest means that as a 23 year old cancer survivor, I'd be looking at paying quite a bit more if at all. You might get coverage, but can you pay for it? My career is 10 years away from being able to afford that type of insurance premium.

Several times she was the subscriber. You can't afford your premiuns. Why is that someone else's problem?
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: North America
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Excuse me, but it's you conservatives that are always crying about how you're being overtaxed and how the country is too liberal, socialist, and bordering on communism. Nevermind the incessant crowing about how businesses are being over regulated and how libs are chipping away at your personal freedoms. Does the NRA gunnuttery ring a bell?

So if you don't like it, why don't YOU GUYS get the hell out of dodge?
Why would real Americans leave the best nation on Earth?

We aren't the ones complaining about free markets, property rights, sexual morality and Christian religious freedom.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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Why would real Americans leave the best nation on Earth?

We aren't the ones complaining about free markets, property rights, sexual morality and Christian religious freedom.

But, don't let a kid wear an American flag to school on Cinco de Mayo.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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Most progressives in the US support Capitalism, so your thread makes no sense.

Do you think anyone who isn't some cowboy hat wearing, gun toting, meat eating, big car driving, bible thumping caricature is a Communist?
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Several times she was the subscriber. You can't afford your premiuns. Why is that someone else's problem?
So, I'm 23. I get told I shouldn't expect a good salary right out of college, because I have no experience. Fine, I accept that. But then when I can't afford essential things like health insurance premiums (which I luckily can because of my employer-based group coverage, but talking in hypothetical here since most of my friends in similar paygrades are not offered insurance as part of their compensation), I'm somehow a loser who does not deserve care?

How does this jive?

This is the WHOLE NATION'S problem because it's so pervasive. Luckily, those of us who get sick in our 20s are a comparatively small group of people - but it absolutely happens and all the "personal responsibility" in the world is not able to help when you get sick right out of college or trade school.

I'm glad that your wife was able to get coverage that you were able to afford, but that's not the story I know to be true for myself or for many of my friends in the young adult cancer / illness community.

It's not my job to fight the callousness of the "I got mine, so *********" mentality of my fellow Americans, which is why I plan to take my talents elsewhere when I reach that level in my education a few years from now.
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