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Old 11-17-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You might disagree with the numbers, but there's 37 pages of it
Yeah, but where is the analysis?
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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So we have a plan with some real cuts that have teeth in em and every lefty who jumped in here read maybe one part and went wild squealing how it's a joke and it won't work and on and on and on. I've seen one rational post by cletus (not saying your a lefty). I know none have read the whole 36 pages. You should just quiet down and do what your leader Pelosi says, pass it and then find out what's in it later. It worked for the healthcare fiasco. You don't want to go against your great leader peelosi do you lefties?
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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So we have a plan with some real cuts that have teeth in em and every lefty who jumped in here read maybe one part and went wild squealing how it's a joke and it won't work and on and on and on. I've seen one rational post by cletus (not saying your a lefty). I know none have read the whole 36 pages. You should just quiet down and do what your leader Pelosi says, pass it and then find out what's in it later. It worked for the healthcare fiasco. You don't want to go against your great leader peelosi do you lefties?

Well I am sort of a Utilitarian and Liberal along the lines of John Locke , Adam Smith and Thomas Jefferson. I am not a British Mercantilist.

It won't work because all our land rents are being siphoned off to a publicly granted monopoly like East Indies company.

The tea party seems to have changed since they seem to like privately granted monopolies. The US could be under the jurisdiction of "Going South Company"
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You might disagree with the numbers, but there's 37 pages of it
Wow, another very childish (and extremely stupid) argument. The length of a document doesn't indicate its truth.

Schizophrenics (like David Icke) write thousands of pages about the focus of their insanity, it doesn't mean shape shifting lizard people are projecting a version of the Matrix from the moon.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Yeah, but where is the analysis?
In the 37 page document
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Wow, another very childish (and extremely stupid) argument.

The length of a document doesn't indicate its truth.

Schizophrenics (like David Icke) write thousands of pages about the focus of their insanity, it doesn't mean shape shifting lizard people are projecting a version of the Matrix from the moon.
No, but it means more thought went into than a paragraph on city-data.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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Now that's what I call Conservative Leadership!
Yabba Dabba Do!!!!
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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You want a simple plan? Here is one.


* Get the money back that was given to banks...some trillions.

* let them go bankrupt

* let smaller solvent banks clean up the mess.

* put financial criminals in jail.

* end fractional reserve banking for all things made by God including land, water, and minerals. You want FRL? then strict rules for VC capital only when more money can create more widgets.

* tax land (You know, the tax that Adam Smith said would have no effect on goods and services)


Where is that in this "solid" plan?
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, but it means more thought went into than a paragraph on city-data.
It doesn't mean that thought is even remotely right, or even sane, just because of its length. That doesn't even make sense itself.

I can read through Gene Ray's Time Cube site of god knows how many pages, but nothing about it is even coherent enough to say more then it's batcrap insane.

The response doesn't need to exceed the length of the original document.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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So why do "conservatives" tend to ignore the income aspect when looking at debt and deficits?
There are a few perspectives on that. One is that they have a different idea from the left of how to produce revenue. The second goes back to the points I made earlier about the relative benefit of different strategies - they don't necessarily yield the same results when treated the same way and though some things may sound good, they really don't have sufficient impact.

Personally, I have no faith that the federal government would use any additional income that I sent to decrease the deficit or pay down debt. Historically, increased revenue is met with even further increases in spending. Currently, we are in a situation where the government doesn't even have a budget nor do they see a need to put one in place. They passed a paygo bill that was ignored as soon as it was passed. What reason is there to think that they would do anything responsible with my money? I'm happy to pay taxes to fund the things we need to fund, but if I'm going to flush it down the toilet, I would prefer to do it my house so I can have the pleasure of watching it swirl around the bowl first.
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