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Old 11-17-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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Doesn't explain the point you tried to make earlier.
I have explained all my points well. Please re-read them if necessary.

If you have difficulty with a particular point, let me know and I will be more-than-happy to expand the discussion thereof to assist you.

This is important stuff, and I think it is important to clear the "fog" so to speak than hinders understanding.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I have explained all my points well. Please re-read them if necessary.
Excuses and statements aren't points explained.
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If you have difficulty with a particular point, let me know and I will be more-than-happy to expand the discussion thereof to assist you.
Well, if you dare. Again...
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Prove it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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Excuses and statements aren't points explained.
Then I offer you cease and desist in the issuance thereof. Have a great day.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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What most of you don't seem to understand is :

* The monetary base, the money supply takes the form of US bonds. When you pay that down, it means that monetary "velocity" must go up. Monetary "velocity" is like handing out keys to a locker of the monetary base. What this means is that the only way new money can be created is with more bank loans.

* Banks do not invest directly in capital creation. That is what VC funding and angel investors do. Banks will only make large loans for assets.

* We are at asset saturation, thus there is not enough asset equity to creat new loans.

* If we had enough asset equity, no one wants to invest in capital which are tools, factories and inventions made by humans.

* That means all new money will be "invested" in what classical economists called economic rents. This is land, minerals and monopoly. Since these cannot expand to the incoming money supply, its only drives up the cost of doing business and shrinking the economy further.

VC capital = investing in hot dog making machine = more hot dogs


Bank loans for buying land underneath hot dog stand = higher interest and higher prices for hot dogs which will slide the amount of hotdogs down the quantity demanded curve....or extreme austerity and down the spirals of subsistence we go.



Why did you think they created economic theory in the first place in France? Its because the landed gentry controlled all the wealth and with mortgage equities at their lowest since WWII, its the same thing.

Bye bye America....
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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Excuses and statements aren't points explained.

Well, if you dare. Again...
The historical record is not a point, per se, it is history. Have a nice day.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The historical record is not a point, per se, it is history. Have a nice day.
Aah, back to where we started. You wouldn't dare touch it. Say it, and run... works well for y'all.
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Aah, back to where we started. You wouldn't dare touch it. Say it, and run... works well for y'all.
I have explained myself and my points quite well. I can not follow you into the depths of debate Never, Never Land.

You have your explanations. Ponder and absorb at your convenience.

Bon Voyage
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Why did they decline Obamas $4T cut in favor of the REpug $2T cut? seems actions are far more valuable than the rhetoric
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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What most of you don't seem to understand is :

* The monetary base, the money supply takes the form of US bonds. When you pay that down, it means that monetary "velocity" must go up. Monetary "velocity" is like handing out keys to a locker of the monetary base. What this means is that the only way new money can be created is with more bank loans.

* Banks do not invest directly in capital creation. That is what VC funding and angel investors do. Banks will only make large loans for assets.

* We are at asset saturation, thus there is not enough asset equity to creat new loans.

* If we had enough asset equity, no one wants to invest in capital which are tools, factories and inventions made by humans.

* That means all new money will be "invested" in what classical economists called economic rents. This is land, minerals and monopoly. Since these cannot expand to the incoming money supply, its only drives up the cost of doing business and shrinking the economy further.

VC capital = investing in hot dog making machine = more hot dogs


Bank loans for buying land underneath hot dog stand = higher interest and higher prices for hot dogs which will slide the amount of hotdogs down the quantity demanded curve....or extreme austerity and down the spirals of subsistence we go.



Why did you think they created economic theory in the first place in France? Its because the landed gentry controlled all the wealth and with mortgage equities at their lowest since WWII, its the same thing.

Bye bye America....
The sad thing is that nobody understands what you are saying; and instead of trying to learn, they just won't respond, and they will keep talking about the federal budget deficit.

it's like people are deliberately trying to stay ignorant.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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Why did they decline Obamas $4T cut in favor of the REpug $2T cut? seems actions are far more valuable than the rhetoric
What were the details of DEMPugObama's proposed cuts? The devil can often be in the details = especially when dealing with a liar such as DemPugObama.
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