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Old 11-17-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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States used to stay out of marriage until the growth of the Morman religion and polygamy. Back in the day you couldn't marry drunks either. It also has to do with property rights and children which the state has a say in. Instead of a privilege it began to be treated as a right.

 
Old 11-17-2011, 10:50 PM
 
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Don't know if it's true, but I read that marriage was at one time strictly a religious matter in the US, not a civil matter. It was changed in order to prevent intermarriage between blacks and whites. Without marriage falling under the law, there was no way to prevent that.[/q

Any lawyers or historians out there who can confirm or deny this for me?
Marriage in the United States is based on English common law. Although, only whites were allowed to marry, and women became the property of their husbands.

Marriage has always been secular in the United States, because Martin Luther during the Protestant Reformation opposed religion and marriage mixing, and made a Justice of the Peace allowed to perform ceremonies instead of a minister. The Puritans held onto this view of marriage, and brought it to America in the 17th Century.
 
Old 11-17-2011, 10:53 PM
 
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On a secondary level, our legal system has always been based on a Christian tradition.
No it's not. Our legal system is based on English Common law. Has nothing to do with Christianity.
 
Old 11-18-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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Religion should have nothing to do with anything, especially politics. End of story.
 
Old 11-18-2011, 01:44 AM
 
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In my state that control is done because a majority of the voters don't want same sex marriage. Maybe we are stupid
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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In my state that control is done because a majority of the voters don't want same sex marriage. Maybe we are stupid but maybe those people could move to states where what they want is allowed. Is that at all possible?

Has the government of the nation failed to allow that ind of marriage?
Not stupid, just against the core of our founding which is freedom and liberty. Why does a couple need the governments blessing? The Churches marry people and give them their blessing. That is enough.
No one should force their views on another. Respect the rights of the individual ALL the time. Their should be no compromise on individual liberty and the rights of the individual.
 
Old 11-18-2011, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Marriage in the United States is based on English common law. Although, only whites were allowed to marry, and women became the property of their husbands.

Marriage has always been secular in the United States, because Martin Luther during the Protestant Reformation opposed religion and marriage mixing, and made a Justice of the Peace allowed to perform ceremonies instead of a minister. The Puritans held onto this view of marriage, and brought it to America in the 17th Century.
Interesting, thanks for the update. Why did Martin Luther think this? So was what I read made of whole cloth, or is there something more to it? Was there there changes in the law in the 18th-19th cent. America to deal with inter-racial marriage? Is it likely that the writer (it was a letter to the editor in a newspaper) just had in mind the change brought by Martin Luther?
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