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Old 11-19-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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The dumbest part is that tomatoes are fruits!!!
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Much of the problem -- the kids getting the free meals at schools come from welfare families where food stamps allow them to purchase any kind of junk food they could want and these aren't people that have much knowledge about proteins, calories or amino acids and minerals.

The kids will simply throw away real food if they are given it.
This isn't universally true. In CA some counties, like Orange, they don't let you buy junk food, even soda. Since here Food Stamps is now a card (much like a debit card), there is an electronic trick to preventing you fom buying it. And I hate taking freedoms away from people simply because they are poor.

People have to recognize that while Food Stamps is a federal program, it is administered by the States and counties within them.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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It's the reverse. The free meals at schools are for the welfare kids, working people pay their own way. What's more is that the food stamp-WIC crowd gets these free school meals and don't have to use their food stamps or have the meals deducted from the food stamps.

Still this is no worse than when the Clinton administration claimed that salsa is a vegetable.
Hmm. Not necessarily. We are not on food stamps and my husband works. My kids qualify for reduced lunch prices.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:20 AM
 
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OK, I'm not defending the regulations as they are, that's why I said controls need to be placed on calorie density, amount of processing, and chemical content.

But pizza made properly from scratch IS a source of vegetables, and even the frozen chem pizzas are better nutritionally than the mystery meat patties, if they have some veggies and aren't too greasy.
Right but we all know that is not the sort of pizza being served in our children's schools FTMP.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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The dumbest part is that tomatoes are fruits!!!

Glitch cleared this up nicely:
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Technically, from a scientific perspective tomatoes are definitely a fruit. However, from a cooking perspective tomatoes are considered a vegetable because they are used in savory rather than sweet cooking.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Lightbulb Gotta be PRIORITIES, man...

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Why are they doing this to kids?
It's always the same reason.

Money not spent on kids can go to more useful pursuits. Like tax breaks for billionaires or no-bid contracts for Cheney's Halliburton. Or some unnecessary military contract for a corporation that contributes to the right congressional committee chairman.

This is clearly obvious and it's been going on for decades. People should stop getting all huffy and indignant.
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It would be interesting to get insight into how each member of the Congress voted on this. Can somebody get & share that data?
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It would be interesting to get insight into how each member of the Congress voted on this. Can somebody get & share that data?
It doesn't exist. It was language that was added by House Republicans to the much larger Dept of Agriculture and Commerce Bill. Due to the fact it was added to the language of the actual bill, rather than an Amendment to the bill, no true up or down vote existed on that particular portion of the legislation.
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Pizza is a vegetable? Congress says yes - TODAY Health - TODAY.com

Time to get rid of the federal school lunch program and leave it to the states.
We have the best Federal Gument that money can buy.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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This isn't universally true. In CA some counties, like Orange, they don't let you buy junk food, even soda. Since here Food Stamps is now a card (much like a debit card), there is an electronic trick to preventing you fom buying it. And I hate taking freedoms away from people simply because they are poor.

People have to recognize that while Food Stamps is a federal program, it is administered by the States and counties within them.
But when you are too poor and not capable of working to support your family but require the government - aka taxpayers - to take care of you, you should not have the freedom to waste their money with junk food purchases.

The problem with food stamps when they aren't restricted is that very often these people fill their carts with chips, soft drinks, cookies, gourmet ice creams, candy. That's a total waste.

Food stamps should be limited to rice, beans, some vegetables, eggs -- real foods to keep people from starving to death.
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