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Old 11-17-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Everything Paul doesn't like is fascism or socialism, it's the only settings Paul has.

Wake me when he out polls a golden retriever as a viable candidate.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Conservatives need make up their minds...first they called it socialism, now they are calling it facism.

If conservatives were all on one boat...the thing would capsize from all of them running over to the facism side...
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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More slavery to the Federal Government than individual freedom.


Obama's government can not force me to buy a doll, a bunch of blocks, a toy car or health insurance.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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That law was intended to institute Federally controlled healthcare from the start. Ah yes instituting that would have made us all dependent on the Federal government which would have been a very fine start toward a fascist government. I really wonder how many progs would have been sorry they spent any time debating the whole thing in the end if we had got what Harry and his union buddies who wrote that bill wanted us to have.
So, if the government helps ensure healtcare access to all, it a fascist agenda?

I suppose the highways, internet, and military,etc. have not made use depended on the government? We will always be dependent upon the government for many things, but for the wealthy, public health care is actually not one of them. For the poor, the choice is no health care, because the wealthy are not going to subsidize it. This is something most of us would gladly entrust to the government, just as we expect it to lead the enforcement of clean air, water, and public safety laws, and for the simple reason that the market has never shown an interest in getting these jobs done.

It is a funny world conservatives live in where doing the right thing is despotism, and true despotism (unjustified wars, Patriot Act, Guantanamo,etc.) is considered doing the right thing.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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Everything Paul doesn't like is fascism or socialism, it's the only settings Paul has.

Wake me when he out polls a golden retriever as a viable candidate.
Perhaps you would like to offer some substance in your refutation of the claim? Or, did you even read the linked article?

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Conservatives need make up their minds...first they called it socialism, now they are calling it facism.

If conservatives were all on one boat...the thing would capsize from all of them running over to the facism side...
If Progressives were all in one boat they would not be rallying at OWS against Wall Street on one hand while more or less ignoring what Ron Paul pointed out about Obamacare on the other.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Perhaps you would like to offer some substance in your refutation of the claim? Or, did you even read the linked article?
There's nothing to refute, he just keeps saying it's socialism or fascism (it's in every sentence)...he never states why.

Even a 4 year old knows things aren't true just because you keep saying them.

It's like trying to do an analysis of 2 + zebra glockenspiel, the beginning statement fails to meet the criteria by which correctness and incorrectness are determined.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Did you care to actually address the thread topic?
He would be taking a step towards Fascism when he receives applause from the conservatives for crushing unions, supports ban of bargaining rights, promotes the idea that the private enterprise always works in the best interests of the nation... I just don't see that.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Gone
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So says Ron Paul. He does have a point. I have to wonder why those Progressives who find corporatism so distasteful are willing to accept it in Obamacare?

Paul: Obama health care more fascism than socialism - Washington Times
Take out the mandatory portion of the program and that is that.
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Ron Paul is right about it being closer to Fascism than Socialism and both are UnAmerican, but it's also precisely what Palin dared to say publicly and that is a purveyor of death panels.


Here, a very recent phonecall of a Neurologist that had just returned from DC for a conference on BOcare. He tell us what happens to folks over 70 and need his type of doctor.



Neurosurgeon calls Mark Levin about Obamacare - YouTube
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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He would be taking a step towards Fascism when he receives applause from the conservatives for crushing unions, supports ban of bargaining rights, promotes the idea that the private enterprise always works in the best interests of the nation... I just don't see that.

President Obama is a smart man with a great vision. All these ungrateful peasants complain and complain and don't realize how good they have it.

All those opposing the president should be declared domestic terrorists and the DHS will take of them real good.
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