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Only a person on drugs would think the US is anything like Egypt, Syria, Libya, and Iran. There you couldn't protest at all, permit or not. And those people faced real oppression and poverty. You oocupooers live in some fantasyland where you think you live in a police state and are being repressed. You have been watching The Matrix a little too much. Get back to reality.
What will it take for you to practice civil disobedience to get what you want? Is it worth fighting for? Or should all protests be conducted in a civil manner? If the answer to that last one is yes, good luck every making progress. It's like expecting to get more muscle mass but not increasing the weights.
The fantasyland is where we are now. It's what most people think is real: that they have freedom that others don't, that they aren't being monitored everywhere they go, that what they think is solely their own thoughts.
Face it. Your real opposition here is the movement itself. Whatever the OWS movement does, you will oppose it. Even if the protests were civil (and therefore meaningless) you'd still think they were a bad idea. That is your right. But you aren't right. You can't wave a magic wand and expect everyone to behave. Our future is at stake. If it takes a few closed roads and commuter nightmares, so be it.
Only a person on drugs would think the US is anything like Egypt, Syria, Libya, and Iran. There you couldn't protest at all, permit or not. And those people faced real oppression and poverty. You oocupooers live in some fantasyland where you think you live in a police state and are being repressed. You have been watching The Matrix a little too much. Get back to reality.
Yeah I'd like to see these loons go set up a tent city in Syria. Apparently Obama doesn't care about the citizens there so no NATO. See how far squealing about rights or anything else gets you. These folks are so far lost it's astounding.
Limitations on Expression Content- Neutral Regulations
Content-neutral speech restrictions are restrictions which “are justified without reference to the content of the regulated speech….” Virginia Pharmacy Board v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, Inc., 425 U.S. 748, 771 (1976). Unlike content-based regulations, which are subject to strict scrutiny, content-neutral restrictions will not be found unconstitutional “provided that they are justified without reference to the content of the regulated speech, that they serve a significant governmental interest, and that in so doing they leave open ample alternative channels for communication of the information.” Virginia Pharmacy at 771. Content-neutral regulations are also called “time, place and manner restrictions,” as the regulation seeks not to limit any particular type of speech,
EXAMPLE: New Arizona law requires that any persons wishing to parade or demonstrate must obtain a permit from the fire marshal and the chief of police. In the twenty-three years since the ordinance was passed, not a single permit request has ever been denied. This year, an organizer wants to put on the first gay pride parade ever in New Arizona. Upon properly submitting a permit request, he is told that the chief of police has denied the request because “this issue is so explosive that I’m afraid there will be violence.” The organizer offers to pay for extra security, but his requests for reconsideration are rebuffed. If it appears to a court that this law is being applied in a way to restrict expression of a certain viewpoint, the law will be invalidated as unconstitutional.
What will it take for you to practice civil disobedience to get what you want? Is it worth fighting for? Or should all protests be conducted in a civil manner? If the answer to that last one is yes, good luck every making progress. It's like expecting to get more muscle mass but not increasing the weights.
The fantasyland is where we are now. It's what most people think is real: that they have freedom that others don't, that they aren't being monitored everywhere they go, that what they think is solely their own thoughts.
Face it. Your real opposition here is the movement itself. Whatever the OWS movement does, you will oppose it. Even if the protests were civil (and therefore meaningless) you'd still think they were a bad idea. That is your right. But you aren't right. You can't wave a magic wand and expect everyone to behave. Our future is at stake. If it takes a few closed roads and commuter nightmares, so be it.
You haven't read any of my other posts or threads, have you? You know nothing about me.
What will it take for you to practice civil disobedience to get what you want? Is it worth fighting for? Or should all protests be conducted in a civil manner? If the answer to that last one is yes, good luck every making progress. It's like expecting to get more muscle mass but not increasing the weights.
The fantasyland is where we are now. It's what most people think is real: that they have freedom that others don't, that they aren't being monitored everywhere they go, that what they think is solely their own thoughts.
Face it. Your real opposition here is the movement itself. Whatever the OWS movement does, you will oppose it. Even if the protests were civil (and therefore meaningless) you'd still think they were a bad idea. That is your right. But you aren't right. You can't wave a magic wand and expect everyone to behave. Our future is at stake. If it takes a few closed roads and commuter nightmares, so be it.
"Pepper spray was deployed only against subjects who were either refusing a lawful order to disperse or engaging in assaultive behavior toward officers,
What were the people doing earlier this year in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran, etc? The news said it was protesting and I agree with them even if it disrupted traffic and kept people from their daily business. Some things are THAT important.
If the first amendment doesn't give me the right to do whatever I want then it sure as hell doesn't give you the right to judge these people so harshly that you want them indiscriminately blinded by pepper spray.
It may take anarchy and chaos to fix the imbalance that passes for current reality. Too bad that scares you.
So then it's OK to break the law when you agree with the illegal act? Please post your address. I'm going to break in and take everything you have and give it to other people. I disagree that it should be against the law for me to do so. That makes it OK. I need to fix the imbalance by redistributing the wealth.
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