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Old 11-06-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Lol.

Nobody invests money if they know the outcome will be a loss.
Again, if you have a lot of money, what is the point of just sitting on it? Many investors have so much money they could never ever spend it, so their money becomes kind of pointless.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/germ...ive-yield.html
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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Again, if you have a lot of money, what is the point of just sitting on it? Many investors have so much money they could never ever spend it, so their money becomes kind of pointless.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/germ...ive-yield.html
The topic is INVESTMENT.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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The topic is INVESTMENT.
So? Lending billions to a country is also an investment...

It is a global business, so only a global solution can work.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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They could peg the capital gains rate to the income tax rate and people would still invest. What's the alternative? Not invest? Why should billionaires pay only 15% on their fortunes? They could even lower the income tax rates with the extra revenue they'd bring in.

This would also act to simplify the tax code.

Relatively few middle class take advantage of long term capital gains... When they invest its with a 401k they have to pay normal income tax rates on. Its mostly a tax break for the rich.

I'd be willing to pay normal income tax rates on my stock gains.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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They could peg the capital gains rate to the income tax rate and people would still invest. What's the alternative? Not invest? Why should billionaires pay only 15% on their fortunes? They could even lower the income tax rates with the extra revenue they'd bring in.

This would also act to simplify the tax code.
Because 15% of $100M (~ annual ROI on a billion) is $15M. That's WAY too much tax for an individual to pay. What do they get for that money?

Why should you get to pay $10-25,000 in tax and the billionaire has to pay 600 times as much?

There's a word for people who stick their hand in other people's pockets without their consent.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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I'm a big proponent on taxing capital gains at 35% and earned income at 15%.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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So? Lending billions to a country is also an investment...

It is a global business, so only a global solution can work.
It's. It an investment if you know you will lose money.

Here is a link to the definition of investment. This should help you understand it better.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/investment
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Why is the first thing Democrats always think of is punishing the rich?
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Old 11-06-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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Why is the first thing Democrats always think of is punishing the rich?
Because stealing money is easier than working for it. Ask any criminal.
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Old 11-06-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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How about just taxing capital gains at the same rate as actual earned income?

Why should my labor be taxed higher than than the return on my investments?
I think all would agree that investing is good for the economy. So why would we want to punish investors?

Encouraging investment is what we want to do, not punish it!

The more you tax something, the less of it you will get.
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