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Old 11-22-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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State land, and they have every right to be there.

It truly is a shame that so many think its ok for police to pepper spray kids for no reason, just sitting there. Not breaking a law, not hurting anyone, just annoying the dean.

Yeah, real bad kids.

Damned shame, this used to be a country where we didn't trust authority.
They were breaking the law. The police arrested 10 of the protesters.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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I can't believe how many of you are in favor of what the police did because they were blocking a walkway. The reaction was extreme. It was a peaceful protest not a riot. So I guess if you see a sign saying "keep off the grass" and you walk on it you are breaking the law. And if the police tell you to get off and you don't then they can just pepper spray you. I guess some don't find fault with this either. So I guess I better stop jaywalking too I think we have some overzealous cops here.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:11 PM
 
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I can't believe how many of you are in favor of what the police did because they were blocking a walkway. The reaction was extreme. It was a peaceful protest not a riot. So I guess if you see a sign saying "keep off the grass" and you walk on it you are breaking the law. And if the police tell you to get off and you don't then they can just pepper spray you. I guess some don't find fault with this either. So I guess I better stop jaywalking too I think we have some overzealous cops here.
Uh, jaywalking is a crime. I'm not sure if there are laws about staying off the grass when there's a sign saying keep off the grass.

Regardless, your opinion of the law's usefulness (or pettiness) is irrelevant. It is a law, and it can be enforced.

Police have use of force policies - when you refuse to comply with verbal commands by the police, you have now required that the police resort to force in order to do their job. What force they use and when is dependent on use of force policies.

These protesters got exactly what they wanted - they interlocked arms because they knew they were breaking the law, and they knew the police would try to enforce the law.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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I can't believe how many of you are in favor of what the police did because they were blocking a walkway. The reaction was extreme. It was a peaceful protest not a riot. So I guess if you see a sign saying "keep off the grass" and you walk on it you are breaking the law. And if the police tell you to get off and you don't then they can just pepper spray you. I guess some don't find fault with this either. So I guess I better stop jaywalking too I think we have some overzealous cops here.
When was the last time you saw a police dept cancel days off and force their staff to work overtime in order to enforce jaywalking or keep off the grass ordinances?

Your comparisons have no relationship to the incidents in question.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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So I guess I better stop jaywalking too .
Yes, you should.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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And If I told a cop "Hey moron, shot me, I dare you", and I haven't committed a crime, and I haven't hurt him, guess what.

He can't shoot.

If I say "Hey, tase me bro", he can't, without provocation.

They weren't breaking any laws, and they weren't arrested, sprayed for no reason.

Went straight from move to spray, no violence or attempts at arrest in the middle.

Some of these kids were in the hospital for three or more days recovering.


I highly doubt that. Do you have a link?
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:52 PM
 
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Uh, jaywalking is a crime. I'm not sure if there are laws about staying off the grass when there's a sign saying keep off the grass.

Regardless, your opinion of the law's usefulness (or pettiness) is irrelevant. It is a law, and it can be enforced.

Police have use of force policies - when you refuse to comply with verbal commands by the police, you have now required that the police resort to force in order to do their job. What force they use and when is dependent on use of force policies.

These protesters got exactly what they wanted - they interlocked arms because they knew they were breaking the law, and they knew the police would try to enforce the law.
Were they harming anyone, did people complain about them.....no. It was a peaceful protest met with violence. What was the point in the police pepper spraying them. What did it accomplish. They overstepped their authority and are now paying for it. My point was that anyone can commit a trivial crime....be pepper sprayed for it and that's ok with some.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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It's freaking pepper spray. They've probably ordered jalapeños from Arby's for the past 6 years.

In case you don't know pepper spray, flash grenades, shotgun bean bags and the like are all approved, non-lethal methods to disperse crowds, something they were ordered to do.

Watch, you'll see it in the final report.
It's freaking pepper spray that's multiple times hotter than ghost chilis. Eat a ghost chili (record it for us), and see if that doesn't change your mind about peaceful protesters sitting on their university quad being sprayed at point blank range.

Don't bother answering until you've got the video for us.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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It's freaking pepper spray that's multiple times hotter than ghost chilis. Eat a ghost chili (record it for us), and see if that doesn't change your mind about peaceful protesters sitting on their university quad being sprayed at point blank range.

Don't bother answering until you've got the video for us.
They WERE NOT just sitting peacefully at the quad. They SURROUNDED the police who were trying to escort out people they had arrested. They did so to prevent the police from arresting those people. This is NOT THE SAME as sitting there peacefully minding their own business.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Wow. "Conservatives" sure do love the police state.
Enforcing public safety laws does not equal a police state. Get a grip already.
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