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Old 11-23-2011, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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jail would be too good for them...ship them to russia...let's see if they complain then
How about we just ship them to Libya or Syria so that they can join their fellow rebels there? (They do equate themselves with the "Arab Spring" and claim they are fighting for the same thing.)
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:31 AM
 
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It's freaking pepper spray that's multiple times hotter than ghost chilis. Eat a ghost chili (record it for us), and see if that doesn't change your mind about peaceful protesters sitting on their university quad being sprayed at point blank range.

Don't bother answering until you've got the video for us.
Cry me a river. You folks need to get the sand out of your vajayjays. It's freaking pepper spray. It's the absolute least dangerous method they have to do their jobs (something you obviously aren't interested in them doing anyways).

A physical confrontation is going to do more harm than pepper spray.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Uh, jaywalking is a crime. I'm not sure if there are laws about staying off the grass when there's a sign saying keep off the grass.

Regardless, your opinion of the law's usefulness (or pettiness) is irrelevant. It is a law, and it can be enforced.

Police have use of force policies - when you refuse to comply with verbal commands by the police, you have now required that the police resort to force in order to do their job. What force they use and when is dependent on use of force policies.

These protesters got exactly what they wanted - they interlocked arms because they knew they were breaking the law, and they knew the police would try to enforce the law.
There's a law that says you can't sit on a sidewalk? I don't think so. You can be ordered off a sidewalk if there is a pressing reason, like you are blocking a business, for instance. The UC Davis Quad is huge. In fact, it's so big that people refer to the East Quad and the West Quad, but it's all one quad. The sidewalk bisects the quad. Students traverse the quad on the sidewalk or off the sidewalk to get to the student union or other parts of the campus. There are paths worn in the ground because people don't use the sidewalk. The students sitting on the sidewalk weren't stopping people from getting anywhere, because going around them was easily accomplished, and even more convenient for many students. The police could have gone around them, the police could have climbed over them. The police were charged with removing the tents. The dean of the school has even stated that the police were not asked to remove the students. The police chief's assertions that the police were surrounded is not borne out by the videos, which show the police freely moving about, and non-protesting students alongside reporters taking pictures with their i-phones and cameras. Oh, the police were surrounded by students? It's a college campus, it's the college quad, it's a Friday, who would think that there would be a lot of college students hanging around?
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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They who? The local police? I wonder if this twit can find a bank regulation that was broken, Clinton repealed all the good bank regulations in the late 1990s
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I'm not quoting every response but

Yes, students were in the hospital for several days afterwards.

Yes, the charges have been dropped because no laws were broken by the 10 who were arrested

And yes, the same people who think this is ok, won't care about the facts and reality of what happened.

Polices sprayed protestors that weren't breaking the law, weren't hurting anyone, and weren't resisting arrest.

(CNN) -- University of California officials said Tuesday they will pay the medical expenses of students who were pepper sprayed during an Occupy Davis protest last week.
Authorities have also decided to drop charges against 10 people who were arrested during the Friday protest on the campus of UC Davis. The university system has also created an advisory panel to look into the incident, University of California President Mark Yudof said.
Bill Bratton, who has led police departments in Los Angeles, Boston and New York, will head the panel, Yudof said.
"My intent," Yudof said, "is to provide the chancellor and the entire University of California community with an independent, unvarnished report about what happened at Davis."

University to pay medical bills of pepper spray victims - CNN.com
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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There's a law that says you can't sit on a sidewalk? I don't think so. You can be ordered off a sidewalk if there is a pressing reason, like you are blocking a business, for instance. The UC Davis Quad is huge. In fact, it's so big that people refer to the East Quad and the West Quad, but it's all one quad. The sidewalk bisects the quad. Students traverse the quad on the sidewalk or off the sidewalk to get to the student union or other parts of the campus. There are paths worn in the ground because people don't use the sidewalk. The students sitting on the sidewalk weren't stopping people from getting anywhere, because going around them was easily accomplished, and even more convenient for many students. The police could have gone around them, the police could have climbed over them. The police were charged with removing the tents. The dean of the school has even stated that the police were not asked to remove the students. The police chief's assertions that the police were surrounded is not borne out by the videos, which show the police freely moving about, and non-protesting students alongside reporters taking pictures with their i-phones and cameras. Oh, the police were surrounded by students? It's a college campus, it's the college quad, it's a Friday, who would think that there would be a lot of college students hanging around?
So, the police were just bored, and... well.... they already had the pepper spray, and so.....
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:56 AM
 
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So, the police were just bored, and... well.... they already had the pepper spray, and so.....
They weren't bored. They were pretty excited, showing up in riot gear and everything. Ooooh, lookie here, we got ourselves students camping out on the quad, thinking they are some big-time protesters. And we are going to show them. They don't get to protest on OUR campus, we're the authority here, we'll show them, yessiree, who's boss around here. I think that attitude was pretty well expressed by a campus police officer striding up and down a line of students sitting and kneeling in front of him, as he sprayed a chemical compound on them, point-blank, wrangling with several students who tried to avoid getting sprayed in the face, double-dosing some of them. Yessiree, he showed them who was boss.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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They weren't bored. They were pretty excited, showing up in riot gear and everything. Ooooh, lookie here, we got ourselves students camping out on the quad, thinking they are some big-time protesters. And we are going to show them. They don't get to protest on OUR campus, we're the authority here, we'll show them, yessiree, who's boss around here. I think that attitude was pretty well expressed by a campus police officer striding up and down a line of students sitting and kneeling in front of him, as he sprayed a chemical compound on them, point-blank, wrangling with several students who tried to avoid getting sprayed in the face, double-dosing some of them. Yessiree, he showed them who was boss.
You've pointed out how much room there is in the quad. Would you care to explain how moving when directed to do so would have in any way negatively impacted the effectiveness of the protest?

Spin it any way you like. The protestors chose to initiate a confrontation with the police. It speaks volumes to your mindset that you apparently refuse to assign any blame for the incident on those that had a very active hand in causing it.

The protestors wanted a confrontation in order to garner attention and sympathy. They got what they wanted.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Hacker group Anonymous targets pepper-spraying*UC Davis cop* - NY Daily News
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You've pointed out how much room there is in the quad. Would you care to explain how moving when directed to do so would have in any way negatively impacted the effectiveness of the protest?

Spin it any way you like. The protestors chose to initiate a confrontation with the police. It speaks volumes to your mindset that you apparently refuse to assign any blame for the incident on those that had a very active hand in causing it.

The protestors wanted a confrontation in order to garner attention and sympathy. They got what they wanted.

Can you point out where police have the power to tell you to move, without reason?

There was no warrant, there was no court order, there was no legal reason for the people to have to move.

Again, if there is no legal reason for someone to have to move, then why should they have to listen to police?

When did we start trusting authority this much?

Hint, this is why the charges were dropped against the 10 arrested, because the officers didn't have a legal leg to stand on.
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