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Old 11-19-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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And you refuse to acknowledge that the protesters that got sprayed weren't doing anything violent, yet were met with violent action.
And you fail to understand the concept of the continuum of force.

The protestors had ample opportunity to comply with lawful orders. They refused to do so.

The escalation of force rests entirely on the shoulders of the protestors.
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And you refuse to acknowledge that the protesters that got sprayed weren't doing anything violent, yet were met with violent action.
I did address that. You do not have to be violent to be breaking the law.
Obstruction of justice is breaking the law. They were interfering with the work of the police.
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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If by "do their job" you mean pepper spray protesters who were sitting on the ground, I'd say no, that's pretty excessive and it makes them look terrible.

What would you suppose they should have done?
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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You forgot to add they disregarded the order to disperse by a lawful authority...

If this were another country they would have been beaten by clubs or shot instead of pepper sprayed..
You don't have to go to another country since if you go back to the America of the 1960s Civil Right protestors faced the same kind of treatment from the police!
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: 77441
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too bad the budget cuts prevented them from sicing the dogs on those losers...
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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There are two sets of laws one the the very rich and powerful and one for the rest. That is the protest Punish the fraud at GS and other places like you punish the protesters.

Take a good look at how Gandhi got the British empire out of India. That is what they were doing. If you refuse to be governed then the governent has no power.

Please refuse to be governed and then come back here to post and let me know how that worked out for you.

Thanks
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You don't have to go to another country since if you go back to the America of the 1960s Civil Right protestors faced the same kind of treatment from the police!
And then you had your Rosa Parks types of people who did their protesting within the bounds of the law.
She refused to give up her seat. She broke custom rather than law. What followed sparked the movement.
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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And then you had your Rosa Parks types of people who did their protesting within the bounds of the law.
Really? because Rosa Parks actually broke the law in her time by refusing to give up her bus seat.
How exactly did the OWS protestors deserve the treatment they got by the police?
I'm amazed at how Conservatives in the US are all about "freedom of speech" and then seeing thousands march during the Arab spring asking for equality yet freak out when Americans do it on their own soil!
Would one call the "Arab spring" protestors "lazy bums" or "freedom fighters"? Hmm!
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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Part of their job entailed pepper spraying people who were protesting in a non-violent fashion. That's a fact: they didn't punch anyone in the face, they didn't bring guns. They were literally sitting down locked in arms, and got sprayed by pepper spray. You support that because you're authoritarian and fascist. That's fine, as long as you accept the fact that this clearly supports the present power structure.

Similarly, if you hide jews in Nazi Germany, you pretty much deserve to get shot. After all, the state can't be wrong and it's the law.
Ah liberals. No articulate argument, so inject nazi Germany.

Literally sitting down, locked arms is NOT a non-violent protest.

You support the protesters illegal acts because you're a communist at heart.
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Because they were protesting. They don't have to willfully help them lock individuals up because this isn't Nazi Germany. I don't understand how not actively helping the police is considered violence unless you're a fascist.
Try to keep up...it's not considered violent, but IS against the law. Let's say someone walks into your yard and takes your grill. They weren't violent, but they are hardly innocent.

I LOVE how libs are using the Nazi Germany argument, when the OWS crowd is the biggest group of anti-semite, jew hating, Nazi sympathizers around.
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