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View Poll Results: Choose the Country to be Born in where you would be considered "Poor"
Iran 0 0%
North Korea 4 4.82%
Brazil 2 2.41%
Sudan 1 1.20%
United States 59 71.08%
Mexico 0 0%
UK 16 19.28%
Indonesia 0 0%
China 1 1.20%
Russia 0 0%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-19-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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"Poor" people in the United States have a higher standard of living than the middle class in every other country on Earth.
Wow talk about misinformed. The middle class in Canada, Australia, NZ, Denmark, The Netherlands etc. have a far higher standard of living than the middle class, let alone the poor in the U.S.

Have you ever travelled outside of the U.S. and seen things for yourself? Have you ever travelled within the U.S. and seen the extreme poverty that exists in some areas?
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Some of the gulf states and emirates are not bad, either. They provide their people with much more free services than Europe does. Money is not an issue down there thanks to the oil. If only it weren't for Islam But I suppose if you are born and grow up there, you hardly realize what Westerners would be missing and complaining about if they moved there.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Odd mix of options there... None of those countries is good for poor people. Is there any special reason why, except for the US, you basically picked only Muslim or [formerly/supposedly] socialist countries? ^^

It would have to be a country where either I could live a dignified life even as a poor person, or where I could work myself out of poverty without being hindered by countless obstacles.
Obviously to skew the results, since clearly out of those countries on the list, the US is superior. It's a biased poll, that doesn't include any of the highest quality of living nations on the planet.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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"Poor" people in the United States have a higher standard of living than the middle class in every other country on Earth.
Heck -- the "poor" in the USA have it harder than the working middle class in many cases.

I just watched a couple welfare queens at the check out with carts loaded, and saw them pull out their food cards to pay for over $500 each in food purchases, a whole lot of it either junk food or gourmet. Almost no working person in the USA has that kind of money for food in one shopping trip.

Here the "poor" get all their health care free, no co-pays or premiums, HUD houses can be over 2500 sq ft and over $2500 a month if one was renting, in addition to all the food stamps, they get WIC coupons, free babysitting at the Head Start center even if they don't work but prefer to spend their days laying in front of the television and someone else taking care of their kids. The "poor" are now given cell phones, have their utilities paid. They have it quite a lot better than the hardworking middle class.

Even bums in the USA carry around cell phones but expect for others to donate for their free meals and free rooms at the homeless shelters.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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You forgot Canada.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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Obviously to skew the results, since clearly out of those countries on the list, the US is superior. It's a biased poll, that doesn't include any of the highest quality of living nations on the planet.
Yes, but if you take out the ridiculous poll it is actually a good thread.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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"Poor" people in the United States have a higher standard of living than the middle class in every other country on Earth.
Yes, and you can include the votes of over 30 million people who would prefer to live here illegally than in their own or any other country. Not to mention the huge number of legal immigrants. The USA has by far more immigrants than any other nation on earth, including those countries others insist are better.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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Heck -- the "poor" in the USA have it harder than the working middle class in many cases.

I just watched a couple welfare queens at the check out with carts loaded, and saw them pull out their food cards to pay for over $500 each in food purchases, a whole lot of it either junk food or gourmet. Almost no working person in the USA has that kind of money for food in one shopping trip.

Here the "poor" get all their health care free, no co-pays or premiums, HUD houses can be over 2500 sq ft and over $2500 a month if one was renting, in addition to all the food stamps, they get WIC coupons, free babysitting at the Head Start center even if they don't work but prefer to spend their days laying in front of the television and someone else taking care of their kids. The "poor" are now given cell phones, have their utilities paid. They have it quite a lot better than the hardworking middle class.

Even bums in the USA carry around cell phones but expect for others to donate for their free meals and free rooms at the homeless shelters.
No doubt there are such people. But I guess they are pretty much limited to the cities. Poor people outside big cities are usually too modest and embarrassed to behave like that.

Besides, poverty is not just a material issue. I don't think I would be satisfied with my life if I were poor, but had a cell phone and enough food thanks to food stamps. Once poverty occupies the intellect and character, it is a much bigger problem as it prevents you from looking at the bigger picture of life, purpose, meaning, perspectives, art, etc.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Why isn't Bangaladesh on the OP's list?
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Crook County, IL
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Still, would never want to live in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. The only "nice standard of living" countries besides the US I would want to live in are Canada and New Zealand.
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