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Old 11-20-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Sounds like a good system to me.
So you prefer whiteyville? Not surprising. Many neo-progressives do.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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So you prefer whiteyville? Not surprising. Many neo-progressives do.
Again, illogical conclusion, unless you believe that only white people have skills, money, and ability. Is that what you believe?
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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Again, illogical conclusion, unless you believe that only white people have skills, money, and ability. Is that what you believe?
I believe you prefer societies with relatively homogeneous populations. If that's your thing, God bless you and good luck with the immigration process.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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So you prefer whiteyville? Not surprising. Many neo-progressives do.
You know, you seem to be very impressed with how ethnically homogenous America is. To the point of calling it "Whiteyville". Which is kinda 1961, but hey, if referring to the USA that way floats your boat, go right ahead.

But I don't really see how it is a political argument.

I mean, countries such as Germany and Sweden are only slightly more ethnically mixed than the USA. Tyhe stats are pretty close. Sure, Switzerland etc may be massively more mixed, but back in say, 1961, these countries were in fact less ethnically mixed than the USA! Of course, that was half a century ago.

But surely USA -whiteyville- could learn a bit from how more mixed countries hand their affairs?
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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I believe you prefer societies with relatively homogeneous populations. If that's your thing, God bless you and good luck with the immigration process.
YOu would be wrong. Why speculate about what I believe? All you have to do is to ask. I believe that a country is better off by allowing immigration from other countries based on the needs of our country without consideration of what country they came from.

If we need doctors, which we do, allow immigration of young doctors who will qualify to practice here. Why take a person who is close to retirement but with no money to retire? Why take a person with 6 children but no skills to support them. These progressive countries have it right, and actually most real conservatives would agree on this issue. I am surprised that you don't. Are you not a real conservative?
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You know, you seem to be very impressed with how ethnically homogenous America is. To the point of calling it "Whiteyville". Which is kinda 1961, but hey, if referring to the USA that way floats your boat, go right ahead.
Whiteyville works quite well actually. It is kind of a more "in your face" remark. It does the job.

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But I don't really see how it is a political argument.
Of course it is. I dare anyone to find a society as diverse as ours with a comparable immigration policy that succeeds at creating a social welfare system. The hypothesis is that societies with a more homogenous population and relatively strict immigration policy are a prerequisite for creating a robust social welfare system. If you like those kinds of societies, more power to you.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:55 AM
 
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Whiteyville works quite well actually. It is kind of a more "in your face" remark. It does the job.

Of course it is. I dare anyone to find a society as diverse as ours with a comparable immigration policy that succeeds at creating a social welfare system. The hypothesis is that societies with a more homogenous population and relatively strict immigration policy are a prerequisite for creating a robust social welfare system. If you like those kinds of societies, more power to you.
I was actually poking fun at your outdated notion that European countries are homogenous. Its not 1961 Today, many are far less homogenous than the USA. and in fact, some have always been so.

The American claim to diversity has always been suspect in any case.

Its not just that many European nations have greater percentages of foreign nationals in their populations today, but that the nations often span groups of people with different looks, religon, even languages.The USA, by comparison, is not just ethnically, but culturally homogenous to a degree that would be unthinkable in many European nations.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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I was actually poking fun at your outdated notion that European countries are homogenous. Its not 1961 Today, many are far less homogenous than the USA. and in fact, some have always been so.

The American claim to diversity has always been suspect in any case.

Its not just that many European nations have greater percentages of foreign nationals in their populations today, but that the nations often span groups of people with different looks, religon, even languages.The USA, by comparison, is not just ethnically, but culturally homogenous to a degree that would be unthinkable in many European nations.
Yes, he seems to be confused about the immigration policies of Europe. It is not based on race but a set of factors where you receive points all based on what you bring to the country.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Im curious, these other countries. Do 2/3 of their populations not work? As is the case in this country.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I was actually poking fun at your outdated notion that European countries are homogenous. Its not 1961 Today, many are far less homogenous than the USA. and in fact, some have always been so.
LOL, riiiiiight. Stats to back that up?

If they are so diverse and have so many foreigners, why the tough immigration standards that hotair was complaining about?
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