The Philosophy Of Socialism: (tax, society, against, benefits)

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I think a successful nation/society should use a combination of capitalism and socialism to succeed. Neither, by themselves, is great.

But you need to find the right balance of the two.
When the scale tips too far one way or the other you get what you see today.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

But you need to find the right balance of the two.
When the scale tips too far one way or the other you get what you see today.

I agree with you but I'm sure it isn't for the same reasoning.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I agree with you but I'm sure it isn't for the same reasoning.

We are talking about capitalism/socialism, not wealth/income.

[mb1547]

Threads like these make me nuts. Socialism is when the state owns and manages industry. I think social service programs need to be used with a light hand, but their existence doesn't make a country "socialist."

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

We are talking about capitalism/socialism, not wealth/income.

I understand that. Don't assume, friend.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

There are lots of social programs in the US that you use every day.

Exactly.

That's why we're failing.

If SS, medicare and medicaid were so good, why aren't the people who formed them bound to them?

"Liberalism/progressivism...ideas so good, you're forced to use them!"

Never forget....socialism is for the people, not the socialists.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

I think a successful nation/society should use a combination of capitalism and socialism to succeed. Neither, by themselves, is great.

In a free society, shouldn't one have the right to choose whether they want to participate in a specific government program?

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Exactly.

That's why we're failing.

If SS, medicare and medicaid were so good, why aren't the people who formed them bound to them?

"Liberalism/progressivism...ideas so good, you're forced to use them!"

Never forget....socialism is for the people, not the socialists.

Name one western nation that doesn't provide some type of social programs for its citizens. Again--socialism is when the government owns and manages industry and production. Retirement programs, aid for the poor, etc. are not government owned industry.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by mb1547

Name one western nation that doesn't provide some type of social programs for its citizens. Again--socialism is when the government owns and manages industry and production. Retirement programs, aid for the poor, etc. are not government owned industry.

Name another western nation that has our Constitution.

The left always ignore that fact.

Prior to all of the socialist programs, we were the strongest, wealthiest nation on earth.

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Name another western nation that has our Constitution.

The left always ignore that fact.

Prior to all of the socialist programs, we were the strongest, wealthiest nation on earth.

I'm not left--I just don't think social security is a communist plot to destroy our economy. What does our constitution have to do with industry? We don't have government owned industry in the US, but neither do any of the industrialized western nations. Our economic growth was due more to our resources--people and natural--as well as the fact that we went through both world wars with an intact infrastructure, and we made big money off them by selling equipment and machinery and built a huge manufacturing base here. Our decline has been the movement of industry off shore because our policies and tax structure allowed corporations to reap all the benefits here, without giving anything back. We've been one big piggy bank for multinational business.