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The same needs to be said about Liberals. They need to stop pushing their agenda on everyone. Nobody is against gays having some sort of union, maybe you should realize this. It's the MARRIAGE title that some don't like, but the gay community wants to get people's panties in a bunch by demanding it be called marriage instead of something else like a CIVIL UNION.
That's semantics pure and simple. Of course they want to call it marriage, that way they are EQUAL with everybody else. That makes sense, as opposed to those against it who don't have a good reason other than....semantics and stubbornness.
The issues regarding gay marriage and other things better.
Time to time I see many conservatives complaining about gay people and their "influence" on society and politics.
I ask you all why? You say you are supporters of freedom than why do you oppose gays being married legally? I mean you can raise your family to think it is wrong, is that not good enough? Why must you enforce laws to but into other people's lives? Isn't the USA about personal freedom and the individual?
Not only gay marriage but many other social issues too.
Why can't most conservatives butt out of people's social lives? They say they support individual freedom but get shakey when it comes to social issues that are not viewed positively by Christians.
Keep economic related matters out of this thread please.
They don't intend to understand anything. Disney fantasies rule them and prosperity preachers own their conscience. Keep the world free by safely locking them in their gated communities, there will be no more threats to the constitution.
It's easier to tell them what they want to hear rather than educate the unwilling. That republican strategy has kept them as docile as they needed for centuries. I doubt you have anything original in your bag that's bound to break the spell of denial they've been under for generations. Pardon my cynicism.
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I grew up in a red city. I have lots of friends who are "conservatives." Some conservatives don't care, some care a bit, and some are just venomous against gays.
What I Do notice is that the most anti-gay of them all are suspiciously gay themselves. They're guys/gals that I suspect are closet homosexuals or bi-sexuals. I wish a study can be done on this but since it's common knowledge that people who have gay tendencies either accept their urge or turn against their urge and demonize his/her own sexuality as a way to distance him/her from it, I suspect many anti-gay conservatives belong to this group. Think Geroge Rekers, Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, etc.
This is what straight people like me don't understand - that they can't tune out gayness the way that you and I can. If I see a gay couple holding hands, I pay no attention to them, I don't care, it doesn't bother me and it doesn't affect me. For a closet gay however, such visage invoke emotions and itch that don't exist in you and me. It's why you hear people like Bachman and other conservatives talk about homosexuality as a vice, like it's something that you can succumb to in a moment of weakness. It's why they consider gayness almost like illegal drugs - something that draws you in and hook you for life.
Yup. Straight people who are secure with their sexuality are not phased by gays. The whole "Sanctity of Marriage" argument is a cover, since with a 50% divorce rate, astronomical adultery rate, and sham celebrity weddings, gays are the last thing the anti-gay marriage crowd should be whining about.
You should learn what the true meaning of marriage is before you start preaching to others about how they should view it. Come back when you've been married for thirty years and then we'll compare notes.
The true meaning of marriage is a father handing over his daughter as property to her new husband.
Perhaps you should learn what marriage actually is. Not the ridiculous modern conception you think has defined marriage for all history.
I have never been opposed to gay marriage. I think all Americans have the same rights. That being said, if civil unions are basicly the same thing, are gay folks not being just as stubburn about the word marriage as those opposed to it?
I have absolutely no thoughts on gays, lesbians, transgendered, bi, etc.
That is until they push their agenda onto the rest of us.
"Gay marriage" for instance.....live with the fact that in most states recognize civil unions. Let it be already.
"Transgendered" wanting to use opposite sex restrooms. If youn were born with a penis, use the mens room, if you were born with a vagina, use the ladies room.
The issues regarding gay marriage and other things better.
Time to time I see many conservatives complaining about gay people and their "influence" on society and politics.
I ask you all why? You say you are supporters of freedom than why do you oppose gays being married legally? I mean you can raise your family to think it is wrong, is that not good enough? Why must you enforce laws to but into other people's lives? Isn't the USA about personal freedom and the individual?
Not only gay marriage but many other social issues too.
Why can't most conservatives butt out of people's social lives? They say they support individual freedom but get shakey when it comes to social issues that are not viewed positively by Christians.
Keep economic related matters out of this thread please.
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