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Old 11-22-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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Agreed.
I am appalled by how hateful people are acting towards our young people.
Crime rates for this age group are the lowest they've been for ages.
Teen pregnancy rates are also the lowest they've been for decades.
These young people stay in school, they volunteer, they go on mission trips, they start their own businesses - basically they do everything they were told would guarantee them positive futures and decent standards of living.
And what are they getting for their efforts? The shaft and spit on besides.

Disgusting.

It really is disgusting. I was born in 75. I have worked for everything I have and work harder than I have to. I am raising my two boys to work hard also. I could easily say that people that were born in the 30s and 40s had it a lot easier than we do. They were adults during a time where with hard work, even if they were flipping burgers they were able to afford a comfortable life. During the 50s and 60s, hard work could get you a decent house, a car and the white picket fence. Not anymore. There are people working two and three jobs living in run down studio apartments.

My children are growing up where people are hateful toward the working poor and some are hateful toward anything or anyone that is different than they are. Times have changed, we are moving forward and clearly there are always going to be some people that have problems with it. If it were left up to some of the dinosaurs that post in this forum, women wouldn't be able to vote, people would still own slaves and all homosexuals would be executed. As harsh as this sounds, I know there are people here that would love that, which is truly sad and shameful for a country that once prided itself on its progress.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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I agree Millenials are much more of a consumer culture. But you cannot call us spoiled and deny the roles of the Baby Boomers in that. Are we to believe that Baby Boomers were starving and slaving away giving all of their money to their children?
Baby Boomers created the "Credit Card Culture" and lived beyond their means like no other generation. Don't act like Baby Boomers didn't spoil themselves first, it just "trickled down" to the kids, lol. We weren't the ones borrowing against our house when home values were inflated and overvalued.
Think you have enough generalizations in there? Do go ahead and try a few more.
Apparently, you're trying to defend the negative comments made about your generation by slamming another.
Your posts indicate that you're part of the problem and have no clue about the solution.

Every generation has issues and problems and struggles that other generations don't understand fully. You simply can't. I don't know what all of the issues my great-grandparents who emigrated from Europe dealt with, nor of my grandparents or all of the issues of my parents lives, nor of the generation or two that came after me. It's not easy for any generation. Our population has greatly increased in the past 70 years and there aren't jobs for everyone. You can no longer make a living in manufacturing, because there is little manufacturing in the US.

Some European countries do something interesting. They ensure that there are jobs for unskilled and skilled labor in different communities.

The US moved away from this possible solution because of greed and the bottom line.

Do you really think that any generation has control?

That said, I have some young friends in their 20s and I think they're wonderful; the world is new to them and they haven't been beaten down by the system. They'll find their own way, they always do.

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Old 11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Think you have enough generalizations in there? Do go ahead and try a few more.
Apparently, you're trying to defend the negative comments made about your generation by slamming another.
Your posts indicate that you're part of the problem and have no clue about the solution.

Every generation has issues and problems and struggles that other generations don't understand fully. You simply can't. I don't know what all of the issues my great-grandparents who emigrated from Europe dealt with, nor of my grandparents or all of the issues of my parents lives, nor of the generation or two that came after me. It's not easy for any generation. Our population has greatly increased in the past 70 years and there aren't jobs for everyone. You can no longer make a living in manufacturing, because there is little manufacturing in the US.

Some other countries, for example, Germany do something interesting. They ensure that there are jobs for unskilled and skilled labor in different communities.

The US moved away from this possible solution because of greed and the bottom line.

Do you really think that any generation has control?

That said, I have some young friends in their 20s and I think they're wonderful; the world is new to them and they haven't been beaten down by the system.
My "generalizations" are based in fact. You cannot deny that Baby Boomers lived beyond their means like no other prior American generation. I'm sorry but it is factually true. Am I blaming Baby Boomers? No, there are so many factors and circumstances beyond control that it would be asinine to try and place our problems on one age group of people. It's not like the younger generations rejected credit card culture and consumerism. Besides, I personally know many Baby Boomers, my parents included who did not live beyond their means and contributed so much for our country. We are all in this together.

I never slandered an entire generation like so many on this thread have mine. Care to address those posts? Or are those not generaliztions?
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:56 PM
 
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My "generalizations" are based in fact. You cannot deny that Baby Boomers lived beyond their means like no other prior American generation. I'm sorry but it is factually true. Am I blaming Baby Boomers? No, there are so many factors and circumstances beyond control that it would be asinine to try and place our problems on one age group of people. Besides, I personally know many Baby Boomers, my parents included who did not live beyond their means and were wonderful and responsible citizens. We are all in this together.

I never slandered an entire generation like so many on this thread have mine. Care to address those posts? Or are those not generaliztions?
BS.
I'm a boomer and I've never lived beyond my means, nor have most of the people of my generation that I know.

You might want to read my posts where I didn't slander anyone, unlike your post.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Unfortunately this thread has done exactly what it intended to do, divide people. By the way Chielgirl, point taken and I agree. Each generation has or had its challenges. I think some of us so called lazy slackers felt attacked by the OP and felt that we had to defend ourselves and in some cases fight back...Don't let the OP take you out of character folks. People are not defined simply by age, race, religion or gender. And as the OP has proven once again, misery loves company.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Nothing of any real worth has been produced by those born post 1970. Sure there is Google and Facebook, but they pale in comparison to the achievements of generations past.
Good god. What a stupid thing to say. Yes, let's castigate everyone born between 1970-1990. That really makes sense.

(And no, I wasn't born between those years.)
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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No "they" are not!!! Are you seriously positing that the entire generation is asking to be forgiven loans? REALLY?

This is what Occupy Wall St is about, and 90% of OWS protesters fall within the 18-25 age range as do most posters on this forum. They are angry because they have had to borrow so much for college and can't find jobs, which they are partially justified in their anger. That said, they should be held to the same standard as everyone else. They took out the loans - pay them or have ruined credit. Thats what this generation doesn't realize, that there are consequences for actions.

This is a typical moment for most people in this generation.


Spoiled Girl Gets Car - Wrong Color - YouTube

Once again, its not their fault. I blame the dad for this entire situation and not MacKenzie. He should have immediately returned the car and told her she would have to buy her own if she wanted it, no questions asked.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Bethesda
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I like how the spoiled generation 1990+ that are posting here think they are all that. THAT IS THE PROBLEM! You guys think you are all that, meanwhile you contribute less than anyone else in the country. You guys are the generation that thinks you just deserve things like a high paying job right off the bat with a corner office. You guys are the generation causing all the stupid sissy bullying laws to come out because you are so damn insecure about yourselves. You guys are the ones that are setting the trend for the youth to become socially immobile because all you want to do is send text messages and post on social networking sites when you live next door to that person. You guys are the generation that is trying to normalize homosexuality and decriminalize pedophilia. Your generation is the one that has NO respect for authority or parents. You are the generation that has been treated like a friend instead of a child by your parents, completely ruining any chances of respect for others. You guys are the generation that is going around in mobs of thugs robbing stores and beating up innocent people in your lovely game of "knockout". Your generation is the one that thinks Communism and Socialism is the answer because you don't want to fend for yourselves. Yeah, you guys are a real gem.
I'm 23. Myself and most of my friends are not remotely described by this nonsense. Maybe your own kids have these attributes, but it's not as widespread as you think. Look, I read drudgereport also, and I hear about all the ridiculous "sissy" rules that you mentioned, but you have to realize these things are making headlines. Which means that it's not normal behavior across the system. I've been interviewing with a lot of young, energetic companies. They are full of "go-getters". And they are full of young people in their 20s and early 30s.

So what is your generation? Since the "Greatest" generation, Americans have experienced a overall increase in self-importance and self-entitlement. We made it to the moon and became a superpower on THEIR backs not yours. All the baby boomers did was protest injustice and then gradually become absorbed into the system that their parents created. If you're not a baby boomer then my apologies. But your generation seems the most dissatisfied and bitter about the country, and instead of taking responsibility you desperately try to blame people who are just entering the real world.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I'm 23. Myself and most of my friends are not remotely described by this nonsense. Maybe your own kids have these attributes, but it's not as widespread as you think. Look, I read drudgereport also, and I hear about all the ridiculous "sissy" rules that you mentioned, but you have to realize these things are making headlines. Which means that it's not normal behavior across the system. I've been interviewing with a lot of young, energetic companies. They are full of "go-getters". And they are full of young people in their 20s and early 30s.

So what is your generation? Since the "Greatest" generation, Americans have experienced a overall increase in self-importance and self-entitlement. We made it to the moon and became a superpower on THEIR backs not yours. All the baby boomers did was protest injustice and then gradually become absorbed into the system that their parents created. If you're not a baby boomer then my apologies. But your generation seems the most dissatisfied and bitter about the country, and instead of taking responsibility you desperately try to blame people who are just entering the real world.
SourD's posts fit most OWS protesters to a tee. Not all of Generation Y is like that bad though...its just more prevalent on the Internet.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:43 PM
 
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Most of the men and women fighting our wars are from that generation. I wonder why the OP has such a negative opinion of those brave young adults?
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