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Old 11-22-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Why not learn Spanish words or books? or even the alphabet?

A pledge is political especially foreign pledges.

What is cultural about the pledge being Mexican in a Spanish class?
Its not an Mexican class.

Spanish is from Spain.
Well in Texas, Spanish is from Mexico. You can study the cultures of any spanish speaking country you like. I see it as a cultural vocabulary less.

Again, learning to sing the Canadian National Anthem in French didn't change my politics. I think people are taking issue with it because it's Mexico.

As a strict memorization act- say if you were French- you could say the American Pledge of Allegiance (without hand on heart) as a vocab exercise.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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The issue is that schools are not letting their students recite the American pledge, but do this? Like the other poster had mentioned. Spanish is from Spain not Mexico.
Yes, that is another topic. And another issue. Altogether.

Yes of the romance languages, Spanish is from Spain and not my ancestral Cuba, but you need context to language. In French we learned about Parisians, Martinique, Guandeloupe, Quebec, Haiti- French-speaking countries.

I can see the issue people take, but the girl wasn't being asked to carry arms for mother Mexico.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Some people really need to get a life.

Agree with GreyDay. This is just crypto-racism at worst and mindless, pointless nationalism at best.

Either way, this girl and this issue are stupid.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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Some people really need to get a life.

Agree with GreyDay. This is just crypto-racism at worst and mindless, pointless nationalism at best.

Either way, this girl and this issue are stupid.
Everything is racism to you Lefties, even when race isn't a factor.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Well in Texas, Spanish is from Mexico. You can study the cultures of any spanish speaking country you like. I see it as a cultural vocabulary less.

Again, learning to sing the Canadian National Anthem in French didn't change my politics. I think people are taking issue with it because it's Mexico.

As a strict memorization act- say if you were French- you could say the American Pledge of Allegiance (without hand on heart) as a vocab exercise.
Its political to to say the pledge to another country.

The class is about Spanish, not Mexican politics.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Everything is racism to you Lefties, even when race isn't a factor.
#1, I'm not a "leftie", even by your extremely incorrect definition.

Second, the OP posts just about nothing except anti-Hispanic rants. I feel pretty safe in calling this crypto-racist, because it is.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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#1, I'm not a "leftie", even by your extremely incorrect definition.

Second, the OP posts just about nothing except anti-Hispanic rants. I feel pretty safe in calling this crypto-racist, because it is.
Where is it that I posted something anti hispanic?
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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The issue is that schools are not letting their students recite the American pledge, but do this? Like the other poster had mentioned. Spanish is from Spain not Mexico.
Where does this happen? AFAIK, Colorado has an "opt out" provision in the pledge of allegiance.

I remember when I took HS French. Our teacher told us that every French speaker should know the French national anthem. (He was from Morocco.) We learned it. We sang it. Did it turn me into a Frenchwoman? Of course not!
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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Where does this happen? AFAIK, Colorado has an "opt out" provision in the pledge of allegiance.

I remember when I took HS French. Our teacher told us that every French speaker should know the French national anthem. (He was from Morocco.) We learned it. We sang it. Did it turn me into a Frenchwoman? Of course not!
It's more faux manufactured controversy.

I bet this girl and her parents are real pieces of work.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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If memorizing a pledge or singing an anthem of a foreign country is no big deal to some, why don't we also memorize the pledge and sing the anthem of North Korea, Cuba, Iran, China or Venezuela.
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